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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    So if you were a member of a jury who had successfully convicted a (guilty) child molester, you wouldn't feel any sense of satisfaction in their subsequent 'misfortune'?
    Possibly, but then I would have been involved in the process, rather than just gawping at a TV screen. (As it happens, I've done jury service, twice. It was incredibly boring).

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    I know that's an extreme example, but for me ALL wrong-doing by anyone, which has had serious consequences in the life of others, deserves punished, and so I take great satisfaction from having seen justice been done, no matter how that has happened.
    But these TV programmes are rigged and scripted to make 'good entertainment'. You have no real insight into what's happened, just the producer's version of events. Sitting through a trial, hearing the evidence, the arguments for the defence and the prosecution, and the judge's summing-up is entirely different from watching a concoction aimed at the amusement/entertainment of a passive audience rather than serving justice and due process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    Possibly, but then I would have been involved in the process, rather than just gawping at a TV screen. (As it happens, I've done jury service, twice. It was incredibly boring).
    So have I, and on one occasion, involving a 'drug dealer', who in reality was no such thing, but the police were trying to 'fit up', it certainly wasn't boring, not least trying to (and successfully) convincing the idiots in the jury with me, not to be fooled by the false evidence being presented by the police!

    The satisfaction I got, therefore, was in preventing what was clearly an innocent man from being convicted of a crime he hadn't committed, and crucially also (in some small way) fighting corruption, so you make a good point about being 'involved in the process'.

    But these TV programmes are rigged and scripted to make 'good entertainment'. You have no real insight into what's happened, just the producer's version of events.
    No doubt that some of what happens, in terms of the behaviour of the participants, is 'staged' for the camera.

    However, if a High Court Writ has been issued in your name, outlining that you owe the debt in question, then in that sense there's nothing to be 'rigged'. And often that debt has been accrued at the expense of others who simply can't afford not being paid the money that they were owed.

    So for me, the bastards guilty of such deserve their comeuppance, and I take great pleasure in watching it happen!

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    Belter!!

    So, how would you judge which is worse: Wetherspoons or Brewer's Fayre...?

    Answer: by how often you hear the microwave ding!

    I wouldn't touch any such establishments with a bargepole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Martin,

    I wholeheartedly concur with your sentiments on the dark side of human nature, etc. However...



    ...whilst I get where you're coming from and take no pleasure in witnessing genuine cases of hardship, I do like seeing the wealthy or those who insist on living WAY beyond their means (and who also feature highly on that programme) get their comeuppance, for trying to shaft the often much poorer folk that they haven't paid!

    Therefore, in those instances, let's not forget who very often the *real* victims are, which are the claimants.....

    So when I see those selfish, dishonest, materialistic wankers in their mansions, mortgaged up to their eyeballs, with two Ferraris and a Porsche sat outside, none of which they can actually afford, and all bought on the 'never, never', simply to project a false image of wealth to their friends and neighbours, get their just desserts, then I laugh my tits off, as I DETEST folk like that - especially when their pretentious spendthrift lifestyle has been funded on the back of someone else's misery!!

    In general, people these days want WAY too much, especially in terms of material possessions, and somehow think that they are 'entitled' to a lifestyle that they simply can't afford. That, and the shameful and wasteful 'disposable society' we've created now, grinds my gears like you wouldn't imagine!

    And so anything which highlights that fact and forces those guilty to come crashing down to earth, and FACE REALITY, in my view is to be encouraged, not least for showcasing that you must always take FULL PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for any debts *you* create, and if you can afford to clear them, then take your head out of the fucking sand and DO SO, rather than intentionally trying to live off the back of others, or pretend that the debts don't exist!

    Therefore, if programmes such as 'Can't Pay, We'll Take it Away', or 'The Sheriffs are Coming', successfully send out that message and stop those guilty of such behaviour, then that has to be a good thing. Perhaps, in that respect, for the sake of morality, these shows should focus solely on those who have ran up huge debts, at the expense of others, and who *CAN* afford to pay, but won't (and so need taught a lesson), rather than those in the most unfortunate of circumstances who can't?

    I'd still watch them, as that's the only bit I'm interested in. In my view however, given what I've said, these shows do fulfil a useful purpose/public service, and for reasons given, can be hugely entertaining!

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    My god I actually agree with you about something!

    I've taken loads of these deadbeats to the High Court over the years and I can guarantee they fully deserve it. Without exception they are the sort of people who would rob you blind, think themselves clever for getting away with it and boast about it at any opportunity. Don't have any sympathy for them.
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    There's a Wetherspoons in Ipswich I've been in a couple of times as it is right near the office - that pretty much sums it up, but when the beer is so cheap you can see why it attracts a certain clientele. Same beer is literally half the price for a pint as the more poncy bar on the waterfront. The food was pretty awful though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    I've never seen any of these programmes, but then I don't relish watching other people's misfortunes, deserved or not. The audience for daytime TV seems to be made up of bloody students, OAPs and the unemployed, who I guess will watch any old shite. 'Cash in the Attic', 'Homes Under the Hammer', 'Bodies in the Basement', that sort of thing.
    Cash In The Attic is shite but what exactly is the problem with Homes Under The Hammer? That's a top show, I can sit and watch them back to back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    My god I actually agree with you about something!

    I've taken loads of these deadbeats to the High Court over the years and I can guarantee they fully deserve it. Without exception they are the sort of people who would rob you blind, think themselves clever for getting away with it and boast about it at any opportunity. Don't have any sympathy for them.
    Lol - there are many things we agree on, and some we don't. I suspect, however, that the balance tips in favour more of agree than disagree!

    Anyway, defo.... That's why I love seeing those smug bastards get their comeuppance.

    Nothing irks me more, when watching those programmes, than when the debtor spends HOURS claiming that they don't have the money to pay, wasting everyone's time in the process, and then eventually when they have no other option (and things that they value are threatened to be taken by the bailiffs), produce wads of cash to settle what they owe, and which they've had sitting there all along!!!

    Fucking pay up to start with, you robbing, debt-dodging wastes of space COONTS!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_UK View Post
    There's a Wetherspoons in Ipswich I've been in a couple of times as it is right near the office - that pretty much sums it up, but when the beer is so cheap you can see why it attracts a certain clientele. Same beer is literally half the price for a pint as the more poncy bar on the waterfront. The food was pretty awful though!
    That's the problem when it's all about price, and how cheap you can get something for [and how much of it], rather than how GOOD it actually is!

    And that mentality is made even worse when you can easily afford something better, but refuse it because you're too much of a skinflint......

    Sometimes the good things in life are worth paying for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    That's the problem when it's all about price, and how cheap you can get something for [and how much of it], rather than how GOOD it actually is!

    And that mentality is made even worse when you can easily afford something better, but refuse it because you're too much of a skinflint......

    Sometimes the good things in life are worth paying for.

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