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Thread: Croft - why 2 volume controls?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardA View Post
    I have a croft 25 with a single stereo pot (the zero gain version that sees to be better with quad/leak power amps) so they can clearly be ordered that way (I think that the stereo pot version is more popular overseas - there are plenty that turn up on the German audio websites)
    That said I have also used the 2 mono pot preamps in the past (both DNM and Croft) and although its quirky you soon get used to it. Initially I worried that perhaps I didn't have exactly the same volume from both channels but if the SQ is right, that worry evaporates pretty quickly.
    Audioflair will retro fit a remote control feature to the preamp - they are Croft dealers and the remote option is listed on their website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeandvan View Post
    Considering the Croft micro 25, but put off by the fact you have to turn both left and channel volumes, what on earth is the point of this feature? Baffled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beobloke View Post
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    I've been selling Croft since the early 80s and no owner has ever complained about the twin pots. I have had a handful of people put off buying because of twin pots but for those, the amps can be ordered with a single pot.

    My RS LS has a single, stepped attenuator.



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    Sometimes 2 pots are used due to poor channel balance of the stereo pots. What make of pots are used?
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    Anyone know what the phono stage is like on the Croft micro 25? (not the more expensive 25r which I can't afford). At the moment I use a G Slee era gold, I've always thought less interconnects/boxes must equal better sound, I could be completely wrong, usually am, but be nice to save 2 boxes (slee +ps) if the onboard Croft one is just as good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeandvan View Post
    Anyone know what the phono stage is like on the Croft micro 25? (not the more expensive 25r which I can't afford). At the moment I use a G Slee era gold, I've always thought less interconnects/boxes must equal better sound, I could be completely wrong, usually am, but be nice to save 2 boxes (slee +ps) if the onboard Croft one is just as good.
    It will sound pretty different to the Slee, try and hear one if you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeandvan View Post
    Anyone know what the phono stage is like on the Croft micro 25? (not the more expensive 25r which I can't afford). At the moment I use a G Slee era gold, I've always thought less interconnects/boxes must equal better sound, I could be completely wrong, usually am, but be nice to save 2 boxes (slee +ps) if the onboard Croft one is just as good.
    It's much more full bodied, sweeter and with greater presence. Very good indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardA View Post
    Audioflair will retro fit a remote control feature to the preamp - they are Croft dealers and the remote option is listed on their website.
    That's very interesting, I wonder if it's feasible to fit a remote controlled stepped attenuator?

    I had a very quick look at this before but there is no space between the pots on the front panel and the line stage circuit and valves behind them.

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    I like the dual controls its very easy to set up , If you are sitting slightly off central to you speakers you can tweek the volume up on one channel , Also the phono stage is decent , I have the 25R
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