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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyb View Post
    Here's an interesting comment, which I think is VERY relevant to my comments above.

    At a high school in Oklahoma, school officials remove “God Bless America” signs from schools in fear that someone might be offended.

    At a Long Island, New York television station, management orders flags removed from the newsroom, and red, white, and blue ribbons removed from the lapels of reporters. Why? Management did not want to appear biased, and felt that our nation’s flag might give the appearance that “they lean one way or another.”

    Officials in a California city ban U.S. flags from being displayed on city fire trucks because they didn’t want to offend anyone in the community.

    In an “act of tolerance,” the head of the public library at a Florida university ordered all “Proud to Be an American” signs removed so as to not offend international students.

    I, for one, am quite disturbed by these actions of so-called “American citizens”; and I am tired of this nation worrying about whether or not we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on September 11th, we have experienced a surge of patriotism by the majority of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled in New York and Washington, DC when the “politically correct” crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.

    I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America. In fact, our country’s population is almost entirely comprised of descendants of immigrants; however, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some native-born Americans, need to understand.

    First of all, it is not our responsibility to continually try not to offend you in any way. This idea of America being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language, and our own lifestyle. This culture, called the “American Way” has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. Our forefathers fought, bled, and died at places such as Bunker Hill, Antietam, San Juan Hill, Iwo Jima, Normandy, Korea, Vietnam, and the Persian Gulf, for our way of life.

    We speak English, not Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn our language!

    “In God We Trust” is our national motto. This is not some off-the-wall, Christian, right wing, political slogan. It is our national motto. It is engraved in stone in the House of Representatives in our Capitol, and it is printed on our currency. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation; and this is clearly documented throughout our history. If it is appropriate for our motto to be inscribed in the halls of our highest level of government, then it is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.

    God is in our pledge, our National Anthem, nearly every patriotic song, and in our founding documents. We honor His birth, death, and resurrection as holidays, and we turn to Him in prayer in times of crisis. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture, and we are proud to have Him.

    We are proud of our heritage and those who have so honorably defended our freedoms. We celebrate Independence Day, Memorial Day, Veterans Day, and Flag Day. We have parades, picnics, and barbecues where we proudly wave our flag. As an American, I have the right to wave my flag, sing my national anthem, quote my national motto, and cite my pledge whenever and wherever I choose. If the Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don’t like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.

    The American culture is our way of life, our heritage, and we are proud of it. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don’t care how you did things where you came from. We are Americans. Like it or not, this is our country, our land, and our lifestyle.

    Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express his opinion about our government, culture, or society, and we will allow you every opportunity to do so. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you to take advantage of one other great American freedom, the right to leave!

    Barry Loudermilk‘s piece was originally published in his local Georgia newspaper, the*Bartow Trader.

    This was written/published in 2001.

    Still relevant today?

    I'm MY opinion most definitely.

    Yup, Insecure, Nationalistic flag waving.
    It's relevance to Danny Baker being a total numpty, is what exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WESTLOWER View Post
    Yup, Insecure, Nationalistic flag waving.
    It's relevance to Danny Baker being a total numpty, is what exactly?
    But they're not allowed to wave their flag in case it offends someone

    Relevance to Danny Baker? Fuck knows, he's obviously a racist and should be hung drawn and quartered like Wallace, but that's a whole different fight
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyb View Post
    But Gaz is being dictated to by other customs/beliefs.

    Where's the equality in that?

    Surely the right thing his in canteen is to allow all choices?
    Gaz, if this is true, is able to do exactly what every person in this country is able to do........challenge the behaviour.

    Rather than become embattled and bitter about it, he can do something about it.

    Imagine working somewhere that allowed smokers to have a 5min smoke break every hour BUT you don't smoke. You don't get that break. Is it right? No, but it's no different in terms of inequality. There's a selective outrage here and I am sure IF what Gaz said is true, there will be others who feel like that too. Why not join a union and raise awareness about the issue and take it on. Might just be the management haven't realised their mistake rather than being a political problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Gaz, if this is true, is able to do exactly what every person in this country is able to do........challenge the behaviour.

    Rather than become embattled and bitter about it, he can do something about it.

    Imagine working somewhere that allowed smokers to have a 5min smoke break every hour BUT you don't smoke. You don't get that break. Is it right? No, but it's no different in terms of inequality. There's a selective outrage here and I am sure IF what Gaz said is true, there will be others who feel like that too. Why not join a union and raise awareness about the issue and take it on. Might just be the management haven't realised their mistake.
    Therein lies the problem, you try fighting management regarding the issues Gaz mentioned and you'll be totally ignored/ told to shut up and possibly eventually 'let go'

    HOWEVER, lets say one of the other staff Gaz is referring to accused Gaz of offending him, how quickly you think Gaz would be disciplined, pretty rapid I'd say.

    Equality in reality only works one way I'm afraid, which is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyb View Post
    Still relevant today?.
    No, because Trump has Made America Great Again!

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    I'll put another spin on the racial equality thing?

    Rochdale abuse case years ago?

    You think it would have been dealt with quicker if it had been white men?

    What I'm trying to say is that there doesn't seem to be any equality at all and that's the worrying thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    No, because Trump has Made America Great Again!
    Lowest unemployment figures for 49 years

    Yeah, he's an idiot, but aren't they all?

    The next election will be even more interesting than the last methinks.

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    Removed some offensive words and images.

    Watching this thread very closely, its heading towards being locked.

    Keep the language and images under control please.
    Regards Neil

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