I've never 'got' the AN thing, and wonder just what other serious designers think when they assess their products.
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I've never 'got' the AN thing, and wonder just what other serious designers think when they assess their products.
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Diesis Audio OB/Horn and Kondo Japan Ongaku.
The Ongaku really does sound quite like my 211s in terms of imaging and general presentation in this system I felt. Only mine bang out way more power, are monos and cost a damn site less.
Hey ho. Believe me or don't.
Interesting listen with interesting imaging. The horn/bass integration isn't seemless but it's not too bad. Dynamic, spacious and lively sounding but quite a bit of that comes from the amp.
You'll need to be in here when it's loudish and the room isn't packed. Second visit and the impression was completely different.
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I've heard a few and as they are usually paired with very sensitive horns etc it always surprises me how noisy they are. For that money I would expect better.Originally Posted by User211
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Is that noisy from the transformers or from the speakers?
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I'm Wayne.
Through the speakers.
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I'm Chris.
Yes that's a bit of a curse with SET amps. I have been told that you can remove it completely, but it kills the magic in the sound.
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SW1X Universal Music Server UMS I Signature with Power Supply Unit PSU I Signature
SW1X USB II
SW1X DAC III Special
Audiolab 6000 CDT transport
Amps
Pre amps -- Hi fi Collective twin mono ladder stepped attenuator, with Charcroft Z-foil and silver wired. And First Watt B1 active no gain buffer.
Power amps -- Welborne 45 SET monoblocks 1.8W / Decware Taboo 6W / Elekit 300B TU-8600SVK plus further improved components 9W / ICE Power 1000W
Speakers
Highly modified Endorphin P17 open baffle speakers containing both vintage and modern alnico drivers and paper cones. All silver wired - 8" Cube Audio FC8 full range drivers and vintage 15" Altec VOTT 416 bass drivers. All sat on Townsend Audio Podium seismic isolation platforms.
BK Electronics XLS400FF Sub.
Cabling
Silver mains cables, interconnects and speaker cables by SW1X
Headphones
HRT HeadStreamer and SennHeiser HD650 headphones
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All valve amps hum. Fact of life. You can minimise it though with good design/components and attention to layout.
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No, they don't all hum - my Radford STA15 III doesn't 'hum at all.
Barry
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Jack of what was BD Audio said check out Aeries Cerat.
Two years ago the Aeries Cerat set up really was NOT good. So I was surprised.
However, not being one to avoid a tip, I checked it out.
Award for most improved manufacturer at Munich goes to them. Not Alsyvox league, but just much better than two years ago.
Amps are insane. The six box job you see here. Will find out more tomorrow.
Trouble was the left channel kept dropping out towards the end. Bummer.
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No hum here on the Radford STA25
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