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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Dixon View Post
    I don't think it makes much odds what amp you use with a particular turntable, I think it's more relevant to consider what amp you use with a particular pair of speakers.
    Yes, more important for sure, but the idler drives do seem to have a larger soundstage and a more ballsy sound than other TT's, similar to EL34 valve amps? Just wondering about system synergy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeandvan View Post
    Yes, more important for sure, but the idler drives do seem to have a larger soundstage and a more ballsy sound than other TT's, similar to EL34 valve amps? Just wondering about system synergy.
    I don't know about the large soundstage; my experience of 301 and TD124/2 is that their soundstage is pretty 'focused'. My Sony TTS-8000 seems to give a much wider and deeper soundstage with a similar arm/cartridge.

    I haven't run the 301 for a while, but it's certainly ballsy.

    FWIW, amp is Krell KSA300S and speakers are B&W N802

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    Trying to work out whether the idlers are too much for me, I have a NAS deck as well, with a hefty platter, that I think makes for a more solid presentation, along with an EL34 amp the overall presentation might be too much. Just wondering what other idlers use, forgive the pun. Whatever system I have some of my favourite music like the Kinks sounds screechy at points, so looking to valves to smooth things out a bit, but wondering whether a different TT would help, was thinking Voyd, but used prices seem a bit OTT to me. I've yet to give the 401 a proper run in period though, don't even have a proper plinth for it yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeandvan View Post
    Trying to work out whether the idlers are too much for me, I have a NAS deck as well, with a hefty platter, that I think makes for a more solid presentation, along with an EL34 amp the overall presentation might be too much. Just wondering what other idlers use, forgive the pun. Whatever system I have some of my favourite music like the Kinks sounds screechy at points, so looking to valves to smooth things out a bit, but wondering whether a different TT would help, was thinking Voyd, but used prices seem a bit OTT to me. I've yet to give the 401 a proper run in period though, don't even have a proper plinth for it yet.
    Your going to have to plinth your 401 before you can get a grasp on how it sounds. Plinth materials do affect how the deck sounds but TBH a decoupled motor probably buys you all the same improvements a £3K plinth filled full of pussy litter, sorry cat litter.
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    Looking at the skeletal style plinths now, they have sorbathane semipheres in each corner, seems a good way of damping the motor vibration. Mind you my old SME 'bath tub' plinth has those sorbathane balls in each corner too, may'be this is as good as it gets?

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    The sorbathane ball is the black thing in the corner, bit hard to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeandvan View Post
    Looking at the skeletal style plinths now, they have sorbathane semipheres in each corner, seems a good way of damping the motor vibration. Mind you my old SME 'bath tub' plinth has those sorbathane balls in each corner too, may'be this is as good as it gets?

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    I might rent it out to a family of mice

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    The sorbathane ball is the black thing in the corner, bit hard to see.

    IMG_20200504_204939602 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/145505522@N02/]
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJSki2fly View Post
    You’d be surprised what 4 soft squash balls can achieve.


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