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  1. #91
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    I’ve used a 774 with my 401 and it sounded superb, a real bargain arm if you get one in good fettle imo.
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    thanks, i haven't looked yet at the bearings/etc.... this sounds as good as it gets now that the plinth is ultimate, i fear the differences with elsewhere mods will be cosmetic

    PSU is a different story, it's planned long time ago but i have no time.... one day
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    So, gonna get a cheapie plywood plinth from Moldovia, they're about a £100 posted, I cannot see any reason why there would be much difference in SQ between this and a plywood plinth covered in nice veneer and costing 4 x more. One thing I do consider though is the tonearm being connected to this plinth, meaning it will pick up vibrations from the powerful motor, but aren't many of the posh plinths also built this way? Also if I get it cut for a Roksan Nima tonearm, can I also use that cut out for a Jelco 750 with the addition of drilling 3 small holes for the Jelco mounting collar?
    Current system. NAS Interspace/Garrard 401/Jelco 750 or Roksan Nima /Nagaoka MP 200/Graham Slee Era V. CDP - Mission PCM 7000. Amp - Audio Innovations S500. Rega Mira/Brio. Audio Note J's/Chario syntar towers. QED XT40 speaker cable/Straight wire interconnects.

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    Rega spindle to pivot is 222mm, Jelco, as you know for 9", is 214mm so you'd need a cutout sized accordingly and then a separate armboard for each arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotty38 View Post
    Rega spindle to pivot is 222mm, Jelco, as you know for 9", is 214mm so you'd need a cutout sized accordingly and then a separate armboard for each arm.
    Thanks Martin, I didn't think of that, now to translate that to Romanian.
    Current system. NAS Interspace/Garrard 401/Jelco 750 or Roksan Nima /Nagaoka MP 200/Graham Slee Era V. CDP - Mission PCM 7000. Amp - Audio Innovations S500. Rega Mira/Brio. Audio Note J's/Chario syntar towers. QED XT40 speaker cable/Straight wire interconnects.

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    Where do I earth the tonearm cable at the Turntable end? Is there a general checklist to get the 401 running correctly, this TT is crazy complicated, so many levers! The controls are a bit clunky, but I am changing speed more than usual, having recently bought an amazing Donald Byrd 70s 12" single.
    Current system. NAS Interspace/Garrard 401/Jelco 750 or Roksan Nima /Nagaoka MP 200/Graham Slee Era V. CDP - Mission PCM 7000. Amp - Audio Innovations S500. Rega Mira/Brio. Audio Note J's/Chario syntar towers. QED XT40 speaker cable/Straight wire interconnects.

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    Does your tonearm cable have one or two earth cables?
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  8. #98
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    Personally I wouldn't earth the tonearm at the turntable, I'd earth it at the pre-amp using the phono lead.

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    The tonearm may have two earth cables which means he can earth the tonearm to the preamp and the turntable.
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    CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DAC Caiman SEG+15V PSU+Dorado DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe/Ebony PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    VALVE

    PRE
    Croft Epoch(Modified) AMP Sondex S100 (Modified) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECKS Garrard301/401 (Bastin) Mat Teunto Bearings 301/401(Bastin) Plinth Moldovan/Bastin Arms 3009/3012(Ikeda Ag wired) SME V 12 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister v2 / Royall N SPU's CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker 10mm Cu + WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage Paradise(4 Box Modded) / EAR 834 Clone (modded)

    REAL SOUND


    PRE Radford SC25 (Mullard ECC83/82) POWER RADFORD STA25 Renaissance (Electroharmonix EL34) SPEAKERS Celestion Ditton 15 (Duelund Rewired/Jantzen Recapped) CABLES Speaker - Duelund AWG 12IC - Belden 8402+Switchcraft RCA



  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    The tonearm may have two earth cables which means he can earth the tonearm to the preamp and the turntable.
    Personally, if it does, I wouldn't.

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