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    Default what makes a good external tonearm cable.

    looking for you views on construction methods,shield and wire type,ie 4 conductor from din then split into 2 for the rca's or 2 runs of 2 core to rca's,ground wire connected to shield? floating shield or connected at 1 source end only.
    whats your view?
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    Preferably, one that reaches the amplifier!
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    It's irrelevant really your still going to get vibration travelling down the arm tube. It all depends on how much you want and if can notice a audible difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldius View Post
    Preferably, one that reaches the amplifier!
    Quite so.

    I would also add having the correct connectors on each end is a big bonus.
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    Not having yards of über-stiff heatshrink at either end of the cable is a good thing too. It's amazing how many 'high end' cable makers don't seem to understand the need for tonearm cables to be reasonably flexible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    It's irrelevant really your still going to get vibration travelling down the arm tube. It all depends on how much you want and if can notice a audible difference.
    We're talking about external cabling: so the more flexible the better.

    To that end, the outer sheathing ought to be either rubber or silicone rubber, or use none at all. And the cables should have a reasonably small outer diameter.
    Barry

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    I bought some of this to try out, it's much slimmer than the average dual coax and nicely flexible, looks very decent quality.

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    Having a Michell Orbe with the circular arm mount J would say flexibility is key. I have used a Nordost which is great in this respect and now have a Kondo silver which has been wired with two earth/ground cables which are both connected to earth on the phono preamp and it does not matter which or both are connected regarding hum as always silent.

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    Flexibility of the tonearm lead is essential for a sprung suspension TT. Less so with something like a Thorens TD124, and probably not too important with decks like Garrard 301/401 and Goldring G88/99s.

    Since the voltage levels are very low, and flexibility is desirable, I would use cable used with hand-held microphones, such as Neumann, etc.
    Barry

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    I would say split into 2 separate 2 core cables as soon as possible. Most tonearms already have both channel wires in close proximity within the tonearm, so around 10 - 30pf capacitance between channels from just that.
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