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    Default Reducing low end output.

    Hi all,

    I use a pair of Impulse Lalis, which I believe are a horn loaded design.I absolutely love them, but I do find myself worrying about how much low end they kick out. Not in terms of the overall sound, but in regards to disturbing my neighbours. I live in a block with people above, below and to one side of my lounge, I find myself listening at lower and lower volumes for fear of annoying anyone. It's a concrete building but I can feel the vibrations through the floor when I listen at normal levels. I have tried to dampen it by putting foam in the ports at the bottom of the speaker but it has no affect, I don't know if I'm just not using a dense enough material or if it's just not going to help. Has anyone ever managed to tame low end in a similar speaker?

    As much as it would pain me to do so, I'm considering swapping the Lalis for smaller stand mount speaker that I could enjoy at normal volume. I don't see myself living in a property where the Lalis could do their thing anytime soon. I don't listen to music particularly loud but I am finding it almost too quiet to enjoy now. No point in owning them if I can't appreciate them.

    As always, any suggestions or comments would be much appreciated.

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    yup, its as well to consider those around you as long as its mutual. I made my own to achieve a lower bass output, as im not that keen on it anyway.. but even then the bass does travel even at lower vol. you have solid walls so it should be achievable. maybe some nice full rangers
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    There is no quick or inexpensive way to reduce low frequency leakage to adjacent properties. Doing so requires extensive structural work and typically the creation of secondary walls or floors. A first step is to talk to your neighbours to establish the extent of the problem and the degree to which the leakage affects them. If it is a significant problem then a change of speakers is probably necessary. Ideally, you will find a speaker that sounds lively at "lowish" listening levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    yup, its as well to consider those around you as long as its mutual. I made my own to achieve a lower bass output, as im not that keen on it anyway.. but even then the bass does travel even at lower vol. you have solid walls so it should be achievable. maybe some nice full rangers
    That's my thinking too Grant, my neighbours are a polite and quiet bunch on the whole. The floors are concrete but the walls seem pretty thin. I don't hear anything disturbing from them so I'm keen to do the same.

    I couldn't be happier with how my set up sounds, it's maybe just not right for where I am.

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    Do you know if the neighbours have a problem with it? You can feel vibrations in the floor but that doesn't necessarily translate into the neighbours hearing the bass at a level loud enough to be annoying.


    Try some vibration absorbing something under the speakers if you haven't already.


    In any case they live in a block of flats, neighbour noise, including music is to be expected unless it is at unsociable hours. Legally I think that is 0800 to 2300. Personally I don't have music on before 1100 or after 2200 but I think in between is reasonable. Don't forget it's your God-given right as an Englishman to be able to listen to your music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    There is no quick or inexpensive way to reduce low frequency leakage to adjacent properties. Doing so requires extensive structural work and typically the creation of secondary walls or floors. A first step is to talk to your neighbours to establish the extent of the problem and the degree to which the leakage affects them. If it is a significant problem then a change of speakers is probably necessary. Ideally, you will find a speaker that sounds lively at "lowish" listening levels.
    It's a rented property, so that rules structural changes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Do you know if the neighbours have a problem with it? You can feel vibrations in the floor but that doesn't necessarily translate into the neighbours hearing the bass at a level loud enough to be annoying.


    Try some vibration absorbing something under the speakers if you haven't already.


    In any case they live in a block of flats, neighbour noise, including music is to be expected unless it is at unsociable hours. Legally I think that is 0800 to 2300. Personally I don't have music on before 1100 or after 2200 but I think in between is reasonable. Don't forget it's your God-given right as an Englishman to be able to listen to your music.
    It's never late or early, usually just evenings. It is a good point to make that I should actually speak to them first. I think it's because I had an an obnoxious inconsiderate neighbour a few years ago when in was living in Bristol that keeps me from wanting to be the same without realising I'm doing it. I think what I'll do is put music on at a level I enjoy and pop down to speak to them.

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    There is a chance that the reason you don't hear any noise from your neighbours is not because they are quiet, but because the walls/floors are doing a good job insulating the sound. I would agree with Geoff - first step is to have a chat with your neighbours (while playing some music at a level you are happy with), and see what they say.

    I'm sure it can't be as bad as my mum's old house. When I used to visit Friday's, and Bruce's "Play Your Cards Right" came on telly, I could hear the old feller next door shouting "Higher! Higher!....You silly sod, I told you to go higher!" Now that was bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    There is a chance that the reason you don't hear any noise from your neighbours is not because they are quiet, but because the walls/floors are doing a good job insulating the sound. I would agree with Geoff - first step is to have a chat with your neighbours (while playing some music at a level you are happy with), and see what they say.

    I'm sure it can't be as bad as my mum's old house. When I used to visit Friday's, and Bruce's "Play Your Cards Right" came on telly, I could hear the old feller next door shouting "Higher! Higher!....You silly sod, I told you to go higher!" Now that was bad.
    That's what the place in Bristol was like, I never heard a peep when a single woman lived next door, she worked in the evenings so we didn't cross at home much. Then one day I heard what sounded like a spoon hitting a bowl from next door, and I thought I must have misheard it as it was crystal clear. But when the quiet neighbour moved moved out and the obnoxious git moved in it turned out the walls were actually that useless, I could hear music, conversation and arguments (and even worse, shagging). I mentioned it politely several times, I even spoke to my landlady about it, but it turns out he was her business partners son so I was f&#ked. I moved out within weeks.

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    Ive someone on one side of me. The walls are fairly poor, but he can be noisy. water pipes and charging up and down stair etc. I dont know why folk cant climb stairs quietly. its not difficult... mind you he is care in the community so its difficult do communicate
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