Streaming Versus CD

[Sherwood]

If the internet gets busy the data rate is reduced to avoid losing the signal which the companies think is better. Iy happens more at busy times. Tidal is worse than Qobuz in my experience.

I really doubt this is an issue, especially for those with fibre connections. Even with High Res digital streaming the bandwidth requirements are fairly modest. With typical download speeds of 30mb or more for fibre the bandwidth would have to be reduced massively to affect SQ.

[Sherwood]

First thing I checked. It's only some tracks / albums.......,

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Do you have an ethernet connection or are you using wifi?

[AD Audio]

It's not an internet issue. Netflix streams with amazing video and sound quality. No point paying £20 pm for worse SQ than I can get free from FIP, France Musique, and Radio Swiss Jazz. Better buying downloads with more dosh going to the artists!

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[AD Audio]

Do you have an ethernet connection or are you using wifi?

Ethernet

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[Audio Al]

Only answer: stick to viny. No variable bit rate there.

[Audio Al]

Must say when David asked if I would like a listen to his rather wonderfull system I was expecting something rather special , After listening to The working hour by TFF via the internet I dreaded the track ending and being asked " Well what do you think "

And being a honest man I gave my opinion not favarable . David started telling why it souned somewhat lacking , This digital mumbo jumbo goes over my head so did not realy understand . Thats why 99% of my listening is good old fashond black vinyl .

I was very envious of Davids system with the lovely Canterbury Tannoys

Since owning the Toshiba DVD/CD player SD-9500 , My views on streaming have changed slightly as the Toshiba has Tosser link I think thats what its called ( Or is that me ? ) Optical in and out , I decide to listen to TOTO Africa , I have this on vinyl and CD and the youtube version sounded bloody amazing Full bodied rich and luscious

[Edward]

David, which actual tracks did you find were sounding rubbish? Perhaps someone who has Qobuz can see if it is also rubbish on their system.

[AD Audio]

Tears for Fears the working hour is terrible in Qobuz a bit better in Tidal tried on two DACs

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[Macca]

I really doubt this is an issue, especially for those with fibre connections. Even with High Res digital streaming the bandwidth requirements are fairly modest. With typical download speeds of 30mb or more for fibre the bandwidth would have to be reduced massively to affect SQ.

Indeed. if you can stream video then a file of music is nothing by comparison.

This is one of the problems with streaming services, you are totally at the mercy of whatever they decide to send you. Could be good, could be bad but you have zero control over it.

[JohnG]

I am intending on setting up a Digital replay device, mainly for the extension of a source in the system, and the convenience that is available through having access to it.
I would very much enjoy the house filled with music without having to contantly attend the system, the interactions can be kept for those special sessions, where the ritual of being tactile with the system and seeing the devices at work, adds to the moment.
After a year of reading and a few listening experiences, carried out at peoples homes and events, I have yet to discover a replay that has sent me to a 'must have one' place in relation to SQ, I always like the idea of one when I see the user interface and its ease.
I once remember enquiring how did you get that CD put onto your computer , things have evolved a bit in my IT Skills since then.
None of these experiences have deterred me from going this route, but they may have made me take my foot of the gas pedal, and be more enquiring.
I can relate to reports of disatisfaction when heaing a replay, as I have strong recollections
from a similar experience, where I have heard tracks I am familiar with played through streaming on a 'Convert Technologies Tempus' and I did not get the experience I was anticipating, especialy when the rest of the system, was getting close to a 100K retail.
I will say that there was a impression that did leave a good memory, and tha was when I heard it presenting CD's, I was very captured by this, that experience is about 16 months old now, and I can't recall how the CD and Tempus were hooked up.
Shortly after this experience, I was invited to listen to Stacked Quads, matched to 0.5db,rebuilt with OTA parts and OTEC 2 Treble Panels, being driven by Valve Amps.
I was much more confident I was in a familar place as I am a dyed in the wool Quad 57 user with Valve Amps.
This was a harder to absorb experience, as I felt the 57's really wanted to sing, but were in my mind on a leash, I was rightly or wrongly associating this with the Streamer, I can't recall the brand, but I recall it was about £600.
I am not in any way suggesting, that the modern Computer Bases Audio is inferior, over 30 years I have not been satisfied with many presentations from a variety of systems and devices.
At present I am hovering around the idea, that it will take time and committment to investigations of the Devices used as a Source for suplying the Media, to get to a position where a satisfactory replay, for my ears is to be discovered, I am very close with both Vinyl and CD, so I have great confidence Computer Based Audio will show itself and be included in the system as a source in the near future.
Seeing as 80-90% of my listening is done through a Laptop and Bluetooth Speaker, I think I am very much involved in Computer Audio at present.