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Thread: Spacers Denon DL-103 on Jelco SA-750E

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    Another DL-103 post. I tried to search the forum but couldn't find an answer to my question: after installing DL-103 on Jelco SA-750E, the tonearm is parallel to the platter but it's dangerously close to it. Warped records are sometimes a challenge to play.

    This is due to the fact that DL-103 is 15mm tall, while most cartridges are typically a few mm taller. I think I need to add a spacer to the headshell, so my question is: which spacer, and what height/weight?

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    I've no experience of the SA 750e but I have had a Jelco TD 750D which I suspect is very similar and currently a Jelco TK 850s. I've mounted DL103's and 103R's in both and never had any issues with arm height you describe. I've always set the head shell parallel to the record surface using a micro spirit bubble on the head shell directly over the stylus this puts the arm tube well clear of the record surface. I ensure the total VTF with the spirit bubble in situ is the same as the VTF used when in use to ensure the suspension is being loaded correctly when setting the arm height.
    Always a little further

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    Alex
    There are some Mupingo spacers on ebay
    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...d+shell+spacer

    Marco had a link to a damping spacer which is also good but I cant remember where I got that from, it could be this one
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/3mm-Headshe...sAAOSwoVFZ3hhQ
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/4mm-Headshe...MAAOSwmkpZ3hf7

    Ah found my thread here it was a stabilizer shim
    https://theartofsound.net/forum/show...ight=denon+103

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    Does your arm not have height adjuster then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by karma67 View Post
    Does your arm not have height adjuster then?
    It does, but when I raise the arm it is not parallel with the platter anymore.
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    does the cartridge suspension look ok?
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    Quote Originally Posted by karma67 View Post
    does the cartridge suspension look ok?
    Where do I look for it and how do I know if it's OK?
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    The Denon DL-103 is a "low rider". I run a DL-102 for eight years or so and never had real issues with warped records until the day I finished increasing the effective mass of my tonearm. The extra vertical inertia addition made the cartridge sing better than ever before but the "shorter" and "stiffener" warps un-dealable with.

    If you got your VTA set horizontally, an extra spacer in the headshell will make the SRA/VTA dig in the groove "tail down". I don't see how that would help to deal with warps. And I doubt that this should be a good attack position for the stylus in the groove. My DL-102 really performs better with it's SRA/VTA set horizontal.
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    the cartridge will be riding much closer to the record if the suspension is weak.forgive me if im wrong but adding a spacer wont change anything as you will have to raise the arm to keep the tube level.
    imo go with getting the cartridge parallel to the platter and dont worry about the arm,besides its not that important with the 103 as in stock form it has a conical tip.
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    how do its compare to this picture? its a 103sa.
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