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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I've not had that. I do have a copy of Steely Dan 'Gold' where the stylus just skates across the record and won't play at all. I've no idea why that is, the disc looks to be in perfect condition. Anyone got any ideas?
    badly pressed. grooves too shallow or too narrow
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    I have never had an off centre hole but have had off centre pressing where the grooves have not been pressed square with the record. It cause terrible wow and flutter!
    got one fairly recently that is off a bit. makes you a bit seasick watching it. not too bad and i cant actually hear the wow
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    That would make sense. Bought it off of USA eBay so sending it back wasn't worth the bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    got one fairly recently that is off a bit. makes you a bit seasick watching it. not too bad and i cant actually hear the wow
    My badly pressed record was on London Grammar If you Wait and on some tracks Piano and voice sound very warbly.
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    Pink Floyd...The Wall....£25. latest reissue...A quiet point building up to the exclamation "Ive got a little black book with my poems in" and all I can hear is a thump as it rides over a lump in the vinyl for about six grooves.

    £60 of original NOS stylus on an XLM III. £100 quid restoring this Dual with a mint base and lid. Motor bearings hot oil soaked £100 quids worth of keystrobe lightbeam designed for a Garrard 301 and I wonder what is the point

    I was having some nostalgia fun but can clearly see why we need digital

    Im thinking Origin Live arms, Denon moving coils and Im still going to get lumps in the bloody vinyl. Is it really worth going any further than a budget deck?
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    Last year I got a vinyl copy of Gregory Porter's 'Liquid Spirit' album, and while the CD version is deathly quiet where it ought to be, the vinyl has several random noises which I can only describe as 'farts'. Either flaws in the vinyl, or less likely is that my turntable is better at exposing Gregory's flatulence. But the trumps sound more like something your cat would do, while I would expect Mr Porter's to be more baritone.

    Before digital came along I never really noticed the pops and crackles of vinyl (unless it was really bad) - I think we have been spoiled. But there is much more to ownership and playing of records, so I will continue to buy and listen to records and try to hear through the shortcomings. I am becoming increasingly aware of the cost though, so at some point I will probably move more towards streaming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minstrel SE View Post
    Im thinking Origin Live arms, Denon moving coils and Im still going to get lumps in the bloody vinyl. Is it really worth going any further than a budget deck?
    Yes it is but it's all or nothing. And be prepared to buy multiple copies and send bad copies back before you get one that can play without obvious flaws. They do exist. But it's a hell of a lot of aggravation and expense when there is a much cheaper alternative without all the aggravation. That's why ultimately I chose the nothing option and replaced all my favourite vinyl with CDs.
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    Sending back cds coz they skip or won't play.. Give it up and stream
    Regards,
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Sending back cds coz they skip or won't play.. Give it up and stream
    Never had that with a new one although I've trashed a couple over the years. So cheap now it's no big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    Before digital came along I never really noticed the pops and crackles of vinyl (unless it was really bad) - I think we have been spoiled.
    Three words, mate: record cleaning machine. No serious 'vinylista' should be without one!

    And yes, even brand new LPs aren't (deep) clean. There's always some gunk/residue left over from the pressing plant, invisible to the naked eye, but not to that wee lump of diamond, tracing the grooves!

    I put *every* LP I buy, new or used, through the RCM before it gets near my T/T, consequently the vast majority of my collection is silent, in terms of clicks and pops, as aside from stuff that's brand new, I only ever buy used vinyl in near mint condition.

    Therefore, I suspect that the noise you're hearing on the GP album would be resolved with a good run through an RCM

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