Digital Facts and realities?

[Barry]

So what you are telling me is my system is imperfect in essence, without having heard it

Since no system is perfect (and never will be), it follows that all systems are to a greater or lesser extent imperfect - yours, mine and Marco's.

[AJSki2fly]

Quote Originally Posted by AJSki2fly View Post
So what you are telling me is my system is imperfect in essence, without having heard it


Since no system is perfect (and never will be), it follows that all systems are to a greater or lesser extent imperfect - yours, mine and Marco's.

No Barry, I think you have it all wrong, my system is in fact basically perfect because I listen to it and it is music to my ears, so as your system and Marco's are not the same then by definition they must be imperfect.

[AJSki2fly]

Yesh, shweety, the same as I can state with relative certainty that your cock isn't 12" long, despite not having seen it!

Marco.

That depends on the time of day and temperature.

[Barry]

No Barry, I think you have it all wrong, my system is in fact basically perfect because I listen to it and it is music to my ears, so as your system and Marco's are not the same then by definition they must be imperfect.

By that logic, and using your criteria, Marco and I have perfect systems as well.

[AJSki2fly]

Quote Originally Posted by AJSki2fly View Post
No Barry, I think you have it all wrong, my system is in fact basically perfect because I listen to it and it is music to my ears, so as your system and Marco's are not the same then by definition they must be imperfect.

Barry Quote
By that logic, and using your criteria, Marco and I have perfect systems as well.

Are but only if you have perfect ears like mine, and therefore as no one is the same yours cannot be perfect.

[Barry]

How do you know we don't have perfect hearing? I'm perfect in every way!

"Sophistry, sophistry - all is sophistry."

[AJSki2fly]

How do you know we don't have perfect hearing? I'm perfect in every way!

"Sophistry, sophistry - all is sophistry."

That is the point, what may sound perfect to you may not sound perfect to me or Marco or anyone else for that matter, so either all our systems are perfect to us as individuals or they are imperfect as no one can have perfect hearing (or so I believe).

[Macca]

Timing is everything and the reconstruction of the original digital recording can so easily be compromised, especially by CD players unless huge effort and expense has been taken to resolve the issues. A spinning disc read by a laser at 500 mph with small scratches and imperfections is not best way to extract digital audio!

Actually the beauty of doing things digitally is that it doesn't matter. You can check your work beforehand to ensure that what is output is correct. Yes if the disc is damaged past a certain point it won't play or will drop out. The trick there is not to damage your discs. Not hard, we manage to do it with vinyl which is far more fragile.

I don't understand why you think reading the file from a hard drive as opposed to a disc makes any difference at all. Hard drives spin pretty fast. Unless it is a solid state job. And why does the fact that it is spinning matter? If you can provide some back up to these assertions I'm happy to take it on board.

[Macca]

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David Blackmers findings are backed by Malcolm Hawksford 6 mins into the video, namely calling for 96Khz sampling and as a result 45khz frequency response.
Likewise this paper identifies muted trumpet harmonics extending well beyond 20Khz

Thankfully recording engineers usually preserves frequencies above 20khz, it is just sad our replay equipment does not presently properly reproduce what was recorded.

some instruments have harmonics out to 100Khz. This doesn't matter because we can't hear them! 22Khz is the upper limit even best case for a child. Once your past thirty 15Khz max is good going. That is the same whether you are listening to a recording of the trumpet or the trumpet-player is standing in your living room. All the things we like about the sound of instruments happens within our range of hearing. And as I said before, 99% of recordings, and all the great recordings, do not contain any frequencies above about 20Khz to begin with because the mics could not capture them.

So not only are we physically incapable of hearing it, it is not there to be heard in the first place.

[Gazjam]