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    got a reply from Qobuz.... we are working on our app. why dont you just use audirvana; its good..... My reply will be why dont you refund me 10 quid a month till you fix it. that might get some urgency into you.
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    Radio Paradise Volumio plug in, good quality flac streaming for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyb View Post
    I have Spotify Family, mainly because my two daughters and both grandkids use it too.

    I also have Tidal HiFi for my main system in the living room. Tried it vs Qobuz and Tidal won out due to Qobuz having far too few of the artists and albums that I like.
    Ditto (sans grandkids!).
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    Tidal is on currently with a 90 day trial, so I may well give it a go. (Currently Spotify premium family membership which I would keep anyway) but a few questions if someone can help?

    1. Can you save tracks to your device with Tidal like you can Spotify (either to play when offline, or to save bandwidth when the kids are watching YouTube
    2. Assuming I can install it onto more than one computer, can you control which devices it plays on like with Spotify - i.e. I have it playing on one computer or device can I make on the fly changes to tracks playing and volume from another laptop?
    3. Can I play my own FLAC library through it? (One really annoying limitation of Spotify...)

    I can't think of anything else at the moment, and probably best for me to just have a play, but I would very much appreciate any advice on the above questions - thanks in advance.
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    I took the plunge and downloaded Tidal on Saturday, so am now evaluating it. In summary, the sound quality is fantastic compared to Spotify, and so far I haven't found any of my favourite albums that are on Spotify that are missing. I am loving the "Masters" too, get quite excited when I find one of my favourite albums is a master!

    However, in the usability stakes, Spotify is so much better. I've updated the questions I posed below, but the big deal for me is the lack of the Spotify Connect type function, where I can just open the app on a phone or tablet and control the music. I'm using Windows RDP from laptop to hi-fi rig, which sort of works, but isn't ideal. I'll be keeping Spotify anyway, so I see that it will end up being my mobile app, and for background music, Tidal will become my hi-fi source. Will also investigate some of the other players like Volumio and Audirvana as they look like they may offer a better option in combining my FLAC library with Tidal in the same interface.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_UK View Post
    1. Can you save tracks to your device with Tidal like you can Spotify (either to play when offline, or to save bandwidth when the kids are watching YouTube
    Update 18/06: You can only save tracks for offline use to mobile devices (phone/tablet.)

    2. Assuming I can install it onto more than one computer, can you control which devices it plays on like with Spotify - i.e. I have it playing on one computer or device can I make on the fly changes to tracks playing and volume from another laptop?
    Update 18/06: You can install on more than one device, but they are all standalone players and don't "talk" to each other

    3. Can I play my own FLAC library through it? (One really annoying limitation of Spotify...)
    Update: 18/06: No
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    I use Tidal through Roon, give that a go and see what you think. You can play your ripped files through it.
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    Like Ali, I am currently running Tidal with another serving application - in my case it's piCoreplayer running LMS.
    Access to my FLAC library is simple, and access to Tidal straightforward enough. Same with Spotify.
    The only issue (if it's an issue) is the need to access the Tidal web player to add or remove things from my virtual library.

    LMS is freeware, and it's very stable, coz it's mature.
    They've been at it longer than most.
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    Definitely better than Tidal.

    Agreed.
    Recently cancelled Tidal after doing comparisons and Qobuz won out every time, to my ears, at every bitrate even 16/44.

    Qobuz 24/192 version of Allman Brothers at the Filmore is terrific, best live record experience I've heard.
    Quote Originally Posted by disarmamant View Post
    Definitely better than Tidal.

    Agreed.
    Recently cancelled Tidal after doing comparisons and Qobuz won out every time, to my ears, at every bitrate even 16/44.
    Qobuz 24/192 version of Allman Brothers at the Filmore is terrific, best live record experience I've heard.

    Love Spotify for hearing new music, the link to Shazam is really great when your out n about and you hear something new you like.
    Usually look for it then on Qobuz.

    If it's not there I can happily live with Spotify 320K MP3.


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    Cheers lads. Roon does look like it might do what I would need but is a lot of dosh! I'll give LMS a go first, I think. And best try Qobuz then by the look of it. Thanks again.
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    Cheaper version of roon is audirvana. Some say it sounds better too, although i dont know.
    I liked qoboz but their windows app never works so i ditched them.
    Tbh i dont think sound wise there is much between them when i ran them side by side in audirvana.
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