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    Have both YouTube Music and Spotify Premium.
    Worth it for being ad free and access to squizillions of high quality music videos, docs all the usual stuff.
    The music app sounds terrific to me, far better than Amazons effort.

    As to what sounds best between it and Spotify, my take is “It depends”.
    Agree with James that with 4k video it makes no sense the audio stream would be crap, and in fact it sounds really very good in my setup, no complaints.

    A good indicator of YouTube sound quality, and it’s not even 4K: it’s1080p/50 stream, is this from Agnes Obel.

    You won’t really get an idea of the sound quality from a laptop speaker unfortunately..
    Bit of a test track for me actually as the new kit is running in.
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    Ah, one of my favourite artists Gaz! She should be bringing something new out this year!

    I would not be surprised to find as Youtube does 4K video it also does 24bit sound quality. If only it could be verified?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Ah, one of my favourite artists Gaz! She should be bringing something new out this year!

    I would not be surprised to find as Youtube does 4K video it also does 24bit sound quality. If only it could be verified?
    Can you not download the video and check the file with mediaInfo (PC), this would give you the video and audio info.

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    Anyone compared Qobuz with Tidal?
    Thinking of taking out a Qobuz trial for a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Have both YouTube Music and Spotify Premium.
    Worth it for being ad free and access to squizillions of high quality music videos, docs all the usual stuff.
    The music app sounds terrific to me, far better than Amazons effort.

    As to what sounds best between it and Spotify, my take is “It depends”.
    Agree with James that with 4k video it makes no sense the audio stream would be crap, and in fact it sounds really very good in my setup, no complaints.

    A good indicator of YouTube sound quality, and it’s not even 4K: it’s1080p/50 stream, is this from Agnes Obel.

    Bit of a test track for me actually as the new kit is running in.
    You can’t really judge the sound quality if your watching it through a laptop speaker...

    Nowadays use YouTube as much as a valid music source as any other, sounds terrific.
    Very nice, hints of Bat for Lashes in that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Anyone compared Qobuz with Tidal?
    Thinking of taking out a Qobuz trial for a month.

    Thanks.
    Talking about this last night with some friends and we all agreed Qobuz sounds better than Tidal.
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    Depending on how demanding the recording is you can get away with a low bitrate. A sparse production with no big dynamic swings is not going to show it up. Recording quality and the type of music will have a much bigger effect on perceived quality than the sampling rate or the bit rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Anyone compared Qobuz with Tidal?
    Thinking of taking out a Qobuz trial for a month.

    Thanks.
    Been trialling Qoboz side by side with Tidal for a while. Got a 3 month trial of the former.... Cant say I hear much if any difference tbh on redbook versions. slight volume difference only, but not on all.... i like Qoboz interface better in many ways, although their catalogue isnt as good as Tidals, Classical exempted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Been trialling Qoboz side by side with Tidal for a while. Got a 3 month trial of the former.... Cant say I hear much if any difference tbh on redbook versions. slight volume difference only, but not on all.... i like Qoboz interface better in many ways, although their catalogue isnt as good as Tidals, Classical exempted.




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    Just tried fireflies al di meola and youtube is definitely louder and does seem to have a bit more weight/body compared to spotify which is quieter and premium quality set to high quality . phil
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