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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali Tait View Post
    LOL, surprisingly not. Can’t be good for the electronics though, it’s right on the edge of allowable maximum.
    Indeed. Might be worth making a call to your energy supplier and see if it can be reduced, oh and don't buy any dodgy Chinese valve amps, 'designed to run on UK mains'!

    Aye, maybe 220V (just), but certainly not 252V!!

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    "My point is very simply that the efficacy of either is directly proportional to the level of 'issue' that exists to address, and which is why the improvement perceived by the use of either device is very system dependent"


    Who says that you need to have 'issues' to address for these, both balanced mains and grounding boxes, to be effective?

    They can make substantial improvements even when you think your system sounds good in the first place.

    The only way to find out, is to try them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earsopen View Post
    "My point is very simply that the efficacy of either is directly proportional to the level of 'issue' that exists to address, and which is why the improvement perceived by the use of either device is very system dependent"


    Who says that you need to have 'issues' to address for these, both balanced mains and grounding boxes, to be effective?

    They can make substantial improvements even when you think your system sounds good in the first place.

    The only way to find out, is to try them.
    I did ask in the grounding box thread about how potential problems manifest themselves audibly in our systems but didn’t get a solid answer. Why spend time, effort and money trying to fix a problem that may not exist in your system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Indeed. Might be worth making a call to your energy supplier and see if it can be reduced, oh and don't buy any dodgy Chinese valve amps, 'designed to run on UK mains'!

    Aye, maybe 220V (just), but certainly not 252V!!

    Marco.
    If it is on the edge of the maximum allowable voltage, but not above it, the electricity company has no legal obligation to do anything about it. If it is consistently either under, or over the permitted voltage range (and preferably complained about by more than one user), then the supplier is legally obliged to do something about the situation. It is easily remedied by asking for a qualified electrician from the energy supplier to select an appropriate tap on the transformer in the local sub-station feeding your property.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Indeed. Might be worth making a call to your energy supplier and see if it can be reduced, oh and don't buy any dodgy Chinese valve amps, 'designed to run on UK mains'!

    Aye, maybe 220V (just), but certainly not 252V!!

    Marco.
    Haha I know the local guys, spent the last two years on and off at a project for grid transformer replacements at the local main substation. Not much can be done in this instance sadly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Matey, if you come and get me and drop me off home after, I'm more than happy to bring it. That said, the conventional wisdom is not to plug a power amp into them.

    No idea why. It could also be Bullshit
    thanks ollie
    interesting to talk to folks at bristol show , one company has been there for past few years and they sell these .

    http://www.puritanaudiolabs.com/products/ground-master/

    i guess they are similar ? they dont cost a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by hifinutt View Post
    thanks ollie
    interesting to talk to folks at bristol show , one company has been there for past few years and they sell these .

    http://www.puritanaudiolabs.com/products/ground-master/

    i guess they are similar ? they dont cost a lot
    I don't know mate. This requires a ground rod outside. Seeing as nobody knows how the RTZ does what it does, it's impossible to tell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    If it is on the edge of the maximum allowable voltage, but not above it, the electricity company has no legal obligation to do anything about it. If it is consistently either under, or over the permitted voltage range (and preferably complained about by more than one user), then the supplier is legally obliged to do something about the situation. It is easily remedied by asking for a qualified electrician from the energy supplier to select an appropriate tap on the transformer in the local sub-station feeding your property.
    Not in this particular case Barry.
    “Music has always been a matter of energy to me, a question of fuel. Sentimental people call it inspiration, but what they really mean is fuel. I have always needed fuel. I am a serious consumer. On some nights I still believe that a car with the gas needle on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali Tait View Post
    Not in this particular case Barry.

    Why not Ali? I thought you were in the business.
    Barry

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    I am lol, that’s how I know. One of the engineers used to live near me, he says it’s always been high due to an old local trannie with a buggered tap changer. Won’t be changed until it reaches the end of its operational life.
    “Music has always been a matter of energy to me, a question of fuel. Sentimental people call it inspiration, but what they really mean is fuel. I have always needed fuel. I am a serious consumer. On some nights I still believe that a car with the gas needle on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio”

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