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    My cadenza black is nearing the end of its life so it looks like it's going to get the FGS stylus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    My cadenza black is nearing the end of its life so it looks like it's going to get the FGS stylus.
    My System:
    Amplification - Sansui AU-alpha 707 DR
    Turntable - Modified Technics SL1210 MK5G
    Mike New precision bearing, bearing base plate, ETP Platter
    Micro Seiki MA-202 tonearm, rewired, hybrid ceramic bearings
    Ortofon Cadenza Black moving coil cartridge - Fritz Gyger S re-tip
    Yannis Tome 423.5 Silver-Litz tonearm cable with KLEI Pure Silver Harmony plugs
    Ebony armboard
    Audio Technica MS-8 Magnesium headshell, Ortofon pure silver headshell leads
    Isonoe Isolation Feet
    Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU (plus regulator modules), DCSXL pure-silver DC lead with Jaegar low impedance connector
    CDP - Pioneer PD-91
    Speakers - Spendor D7 on Soundcare SuperSpikes
    QED Silver Spiral speaker cable, Airlock plugs - bare wire amp end.
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  3. #33
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    Bloody predictive text strikes again! Sorry jimbo
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by karma67 View Post
    Bloody predictive text strikes again! Sorry jimbo
    Last edited by Jimbo; 18-02-2019 at 12:17.
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    I have a 2M Blue with a busted cantilever
    Anyone know if the coils are same in the blue and if this cart would benefit by this mod

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    Ah the answer is here
    https://www.ortofon.com/ortofon-2m-blue-p-333



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    It seems to me that this could be a better path than new. Any cartridge you fancy can be had cheap if you buy used with a broken cantilever! Then send it off, get a better cartridge back at a fraction of the cost of the new cartridge. It definitely has me thinking.

    Russell

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    I was referred to earlier in this thread about my experience with sending in a Cartridge to Holistic Audio.
    The cartridge in question was a Kontrapunkt b, the end result was extremely satisfying and after a couple of short auditions in two different systems 'not mine', I can't wait for the time when it gets put into permanent use on my own system.
    Each time the K'b has been heard by others, the enquiry that follows is how do I get one, or let me know who did it, I have a damaged K'b.
    My entry was a Broken Cantilever K'b bought for a reasonable outlay, that was sent onto Holistic Audio.
    I can't wait to Discover the undisclosed in my record collection.
    Maybe I might just find out what was really going on in the studio during the recording of 'Appetite for Destruction' with out relying on the hear say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnG View Post
    I was referred to earlier in this thread about my experience with sending in a Cartridge to Holistic Audio.
    The cartridge in question was a Kontrapunkt b, the end result was extremely satisfying and after a couple of short auditions in two different systems 'not mine', I can't wait for the time when it gets put into permanent use on my own system.
    Each time the K'b has been heard by others, the enquiry that follows is how do I get one, or let me know who did it, I have a damaged K'b.
    My entry was a Broken Cantilever K'b bought for a reasonable outlay, that was sent onto Holistic Audio.
    I can't wait to Discover the undisclosed in my record collection.
    Maybe I might just find out what was really going on in the studio during the recording of 'Appetite for Destruction' with out relying on the hear say.
    John, you will be spending some long hours listening to vinyl I am sure! Mine has had me questioning what on earth I was listening too before there was so much missing. The FGS stylus really does make a huge difference.
    VPI Scout 1.1 - Ortofon 2M Black FGS - Croft 25R+ - Croft Series 7 - Spendor SP2

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaGT View Post
    It seems to me that this could be a better path than new. Any cartridge you fancy can be had cheap if you buy used with a broken cantilever! Then send it off, get a better cartridge back at a fraction of the cost of the new cartridge. It definitely has me thinking.

    Russell

    My cantilever did have to be intact for the work to be carried out but maybe other cartridges maybe different?
    VPI Scout 1.1 - Ortofon 2M Black FGS - Croft 25R+ - Croft Series 7 - Spendor SP2

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    Maybe the FGS is not the panacea for non Ortofon based cartridges. Maybe some cartridges are not up to it. I asked Mr. Bakker if he thought it a good choice for my Troika and he told me that the Vital aka Ogura tip is a basic part of the Troika design and I should not contemplate any other tip shape.

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