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    Two months on and the upgraded 2M Black with the FGS stylus has now run in completely. Over these months the soundstage seems to have widened with superb imaging and wonderfully tonal quality,in fact it has the the most satisfying tonal quality I have heard from any cartridge.

    Instruments are portrayed with life like realism, weight and texture. Guitars have lovely harmonic layering,piano keys have weight and fast dynamics and brass and wind instruments sound full and real. Vocals take on amazing detail with so much information in how the singer is using their voice and breath. Layers of information that were not there before have been revealed like archaeologists excavating in the sand. Where as some detail was hinted at it is now very clear and transparent.

    This has to be the most satisfying analogue system I have heard with so much space and lovely acoustic information filling your senses without any artificial "HiFi" aspects to the sound. It means you listen for hours without ever wanting to finish, always reaching for yet another record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Two months on and the upgraded 2M Black with the FGS stylus has now run in completely. Over these months the soundstage seems to have widened with superb imaging and wonderfully tonal quality,in fact it has the the most satisfying tonal quality I have heard from any cartridge.

    Instruments are portrayed with life like realism, weight and texture. Guitars have lovely harmonic layering,piano keys have weight and fast dynamics and brass and wind instruments sound full and real. Vocals take on amazing detail with so much information in how the singer is using their voice and breath. Layers of information that were not there before have been revealed like archaeologists excavating in the sand. Where as some detail was hinted at it is now very clear and transparent.

    This has to be the most satisfying analogue system I have heard with so much space and lovely acoustic information filling your senses without any artificial "HiFi" aspects to the sound. It means you listen for hours without ever wanting to finish, always reaching for yet another record.
    Congratulations Jim, a just reward for your efforts. Can't wait to hear it!
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    Jim, I'm getting a little bit of your experience but from a completely different source! A purchased a Ortofon Royal N SPU, same coils as the Cadenza black and a the replicant stylus which is similar to FG but probably not quite as good. I'd say its strong point is detail resolution. Still considering getting my Cadenza black sorted!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    . It means you listen for hours without ever wanting to finish, always reaching for yet another record.
    Well at least 22-23 minutes until you need to turn it over!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    Well at least 22-23 minutes until you need to turn it over!!!!!!!!
    I like the turning over it get me to move out my chair

    Yes the detail is fantastic. I was listening right into the recordings last night and could hear quite a bit more than the standard 2M.

    The standard 2M sounds edgy and a bit hyped compare to the FGS. I really am impressed with how it retrieves detail but also as I mentioned, its tonality. It has far exceeded what I thought it would do. The detail it does reveal is not like digital analytical detail which reminds me of the vivid setting on your TV, it is more natural and balanced in the recording.

    As you may have been aware I have been evaluating an exceedingly good digital set up over the past few months - The Pi3 + Boss 1.2 and it has been enjoyable. I could write a great deal on how it compares with my analogue set up but that will have to wait till another day. But suffice is to say I still prefer my analogue set up by a large margin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Congratulations Jim, a just reward for your efforts. Can't wait to hear it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post

    As you may have been aware I have been evaluating an exceedingly good digital set up over the past few months - The Pi3 + Boss 1.2 and it has been enjoyable. I could write a great deal on how it compares with my analogue set up )
    You should, that would be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    You should, that would be interesting.
    I will certainly get round to it soon Martin, however I feel it may be like comparing Colour photography to Black and White photography.

    Which is the most pleasing?
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    That would be an ecumenical question
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    That would be an ecumenical question
    Hahaha
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