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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive View Post
    You miss the point, it's not hearing like bats, it's perceiving. It's really not the same thing. This perception probably adds to the overall experience.

    Grounding boxes may free up clutter to allow this perception to take place. Or gounding boxes may be a device of Satan....hard to know.
    No I understand the difference that is being suggested. However I don't think that we can say it ' probably adds to the overall experience.' Even if it were demonstrated that we 'perceive' these frequencies that is still a long way from showing that this has a positive effect on the experience of listening to music. That part of the theory is at best just supposition.
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    Whether it's probably or possibly..... let's simply keep an open mind rather than split hairs.

    Have you ever sensed someone behind you without hearing anything? There's more to perception than 20hz - 20kHz (or indeed 14kHz for many).
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    I’m struggling with the lower noise floor theory. Particularly with the incremental improvements being heard. More cables it gets, better, more expensive box, more improvements. I would imagine in most systems the noise floor is pretty low to begin with. To then hear incremental changes to this would require exceptional hearing capabilities I would imagine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMutt View Post
    To then hear incremental changes to this would require exceptional hearing capabilities I would imagine?
    Keep up! You don't need to hear it, only perceive it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intenso View Post
    Keep up! You don't need to hear it, only perceive it
    OK, exceptional perception then.

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    What happens if you fit a fancy fuse in one of one cables going to the box?
    Do you get the same improvement as people have reported when using them in mains cables?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMutt View Post
    OK, exceptional perception then.
    I think you may well be right.

    Was it CS Lewis who said, 'What you see and hear depends a good deal on where you are standing; it also depends on what sort of person you are' or was that Bruce Lee?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intenso View Post
    I think you may well be right.

    Was it CS Lewis who said, 'What you see and hear depends a good deal on where you are standing; it also depends on what sort of person you are' or was that Bruce Lee?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intenso View Post
    I think you may well be right.

    Was it CS Lewis who said, 'What you see and hear depends a good deal on where you are standing; it also depends on what sort of person you are' or was that Bruce Lee?
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    For some idea of the RF (radio frequency) environment we work within see
    https://theartofsound.net/forum/show...d-on-my-system


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