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  1. #171
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    perhaps MR C for the ignorant like myself you could explain what these boxes are doing and why etc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. C View Post
    A valid question and genuine Anthony.

    Have tried these devices with all valves / analogue systems (both TT and R2R), Berni on here has a classic Valves / vinyl set up works just dandy on his system.
    In fact only two systems that I know have these GB's have switching amps, the rest are classic a/b / valves with the odd class 'a' thrown in.

    Snoopdog's system is digital / class a/b he uses Entreq (which we do not sell) seems happy with the results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    Grounding boxes are clearly the flavour of the day/week/month. But do we really need three separate threads about them?
    Why does it matter? Are we paying by the thread now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Why does it matter? Are we paying by the thread now?
    I'm paying nowt, meself, just it's a tad confusing. But hey, what do I know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. C View Post
    A valid question and genuine Anthony.

    Have tried these devices with all valves / analogue systems (both TT and R2R), Berni on here has a classic Valves / vinyl set up works just dandy on his system.
    In fact only two systems that I know have these GB's have switching amps, the rest are classic a/b / valves with the odd class 'a' thrown in.

    Snoopdog's system is digital / class a/b he uses Entreq (which we do not sell) seems happy with the results.
    Currently assessing a loaned Entreq Silver Tellus with four Apollo Eartha cables (two XLR to DAC, one RCA phono to transport and one RCA phono to preamp).

    Definitely something going on, with lower noise and ease of musical presentation.

    Looking forward to Tony's RTZ box and cables!
    Steve.

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    The funny thing is Marco, those arrogant objectivists, are, with their arrogance, losing objectivity. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopdog View Post
    The trouble with forums is there is so much useful and knowledgeable information buried in amongst arguments between posters!
    Indeed. I don't mind arguments, as long as they stick to the subject being discussed and don't turn personal. Displaying a bit of controlled passion is good on subjects of interest. Sadly however, some folks are incapable of that, especially the irascible sorts who don't realise that things turn personal often as a *direct* result of their belligerence, and how aggressively they address people!

    In an effort to get a handle on the subject of grounding boxes and real consumer experience and feedback, I waded through nearly 150 pages of posts on one thread about "Entreq" on an American forum.

    Just when it got really interesting, some idiot would chime in with an insulting post and the whole thing would become derailed for a couple of pages, before returning to actual customer experience!
    Yup, I had to ban someone yesterday exactly for that. Why do these arrogant clowns think that they're entitled to spew their bile over any subject that doesn't fit with their prejudices? That's the problem these days, though: ENTITLEMENT. Unjustified 'Entitlement Syndrome' is rife!!

    I blame how they've been brought up; as kids they should've been spoiled less and slapped more....... Thankfully however, we moderate *very strictly* here on the above behaviour, so very few threads are locked or deleted.

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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

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    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    The funny thing is Marco, those arrogant objectivists, are, with their arrogance, losing objectivity. :-)
    Lol, you can't beat a bit of unintentional irony!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Irony.. A bit like woody but thicker
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    I've got a nice thick woody. The nurse said you have, too!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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