Clearly the wall was travelling at 85 too!Originally Posted by walpurgis
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Clearly the wall was travelling at 85 too!Me no understand?
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When you read the lawsuit, yeah the speed limiter is part of the suit, however it soon turns into a suit regarding the ability of the car to withstand a crash AND more importantly the ability of the batteries to be able to withstand such a crash.
I'm pretty sure the limiter was an issue, however the lawyers know that the batteries is where the most money lies
The batteries in newer models have intumescent protection on them and are much better protected in a crash.
Tesla AND the Technician (mechanic) are both being sued.
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two cars travelling at 85mph...have a head on crash...the impact speed is 170mph...hitting a solid brick wall gives the same effect.....
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http://warp.povusers.org/grrr/collisionmath.htmlMe no understand?
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i think it is both will be the same obviously dependent on rigidity etc. if you hit another car with same construction bang head on then you feel your deceleration. ie 85 here. that by way is huge force and would go straight through a 2 ft thick wall. odds on him surviving a head on with an immovable object at that speed is extremely low. not a huge amount more than 120mph tbh in the real world. anything not tied down will be propelled forward increasing their mass to huge forces of impact on your back as well.
I remember seeing right beside me a car coming up the wrong side of motorway at beyond speed limit in a suicide bid. was near dunfermline. hit aan oncoming car causing unimaginable damage and carnage. His engine kept going bouncing up the rd uphill and on fire for a long way; cars including mine trying to avoid it and everything else flying about. Amazingly i got off scot free bar my nerves.
Odd that i had been in the receiving cars position 5/10 secs before, and i felt a touch on my shoulder and a voice say slow down and change lane...Believe me its true.... It changed me as a person.
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An impact into a solid object at 85 mph does not tranform itself to a 170 mph impact.
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No it doesn't but from the link Alan provided:
When the vehicle hits the rock wall at 50 km/h, the rock wall causes a force large enough to stop the vehicle right there. In other words, the vehicle hits the rock wall with a momentum equivalent to its speed times its mass. Conversely, by Newton's law, at the moment of the collision the rock wall causes an equal force to the vehicle in the opposite direction, causing it to stop. That is, the rock wall causes a force equivalent to the 50 km/h times the mass of the vehicle.
The misconception in the two-vehicle scenario is basically that this applied force is double that, ie. the equivalent to 100 km/h times the mass of the vehicle.
However, think about where this force is coming from in the two-vehicle scenario: It's coming from the second vehicle. But the second vehicle is also traveling at 50 km/h and has the same mass.
So we have two forces: Vehicle 1 applies the equivalent of 50 km/h times its mass to vehicle 2, and vehicle 2 applies an equal force to vehicle 1. This causes both vehicles to stop right there.
Where would the additional 50 km/h times the mass of the vehicle come from? Vehicle 1 cannot apply that force to itself. It's applying it to vehicle 2. So where is it coming from?
The answer is that it's not coming from anywhere because the force applied to vehicle 1 is not 100 km/h times the mass, but only 50 km/h times the mass. The same as with the rock wall.
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“You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”
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what does the speed equate to then....??
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