Speed doesn't kill people stupidity/carelessness does, you can die in an RTC at 30mph too it's just less likely and a lot less messy.
A car in the hands of an idiot at 50mph is a lot more dangerous than one at 100mph in the hands of an expert
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Speed doesn't kill people stupidity/carelessness does, you can die in an RTC at 30mph too it's just less likely and a lot less messy.
A car in the hands of an idiot at 50mph is a lot more dangerous than one at 100mph in the hands of an expert
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think its not so much he did 100+ ' . 85 in a 30 zone is as bad and the crash would still likely happen somewhere
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True but assuming you are going to have a crash due to stupidity/carelessness the chance of death or serious injury increases exponentially with speed. If he'd hit the concrete at 85 there would have been a greater chance of survival.Originally Posted by mikeyb
Speed doesn't kill people stupidity/carelessness does, you can die in an RTC at 30mph too it's just less likely and a lot less messy.
A car in the hands of an idiot at 50mph is a lot more dangerous than one at 100mph in the hands of an expert
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You have to laugh at the lawsuit, the driver had already been done for 112mph. The parents had the limiter fitted to max of 85mph.
It was then removed at the workshop prior to the crash, parents state they didn't know, fair enough, but having a history of speeding didn't bother them, they were quite happy for him to do 85mph !
At the time of the accident he was doing in excess of 116mph, the lawsuit states that if he'd only been doing 85mph he wouldn't have lost control
Tesla should sue the parents for neglect and manslaughter for allowing a known speeder to drive their car
112mph ticket, why the hell was he still driving anyway? Or is that allowed in the USA?
I wonder if the limiter was removed as it was then an option in the software rather than mechanical? And it was never reset at 85mph I bet there was a software update done at the time of service.
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Article says the car hit a light pole. Is that Chinese for lamp post?
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even if the car was doing 85mph...the impact hitting a brick wall is that of 170mph and would have had the same outcome, but I do agree that the speed limiter, should not have been removed. In any event the young man would have been speeding. It was the driver who was at fault. If a speeding driver hits a pedestrian/pedestrians and kills them, he/she is prosecuted for man slaughter...This young guy, as sad as it is..killed himself and his passanger by driving extremely recklessly
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