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  1. #21
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    Note that the motor is mounted on springs and will make a noise against the eddy brake if the deck is not level.
    Does the motor spin when switched on ?

    Ps wont the motor spin even if the suppressor is open circuit?
    You would just get a noise (Spike) at switch on / off

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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    Ok, if your hearing a metallic sound, it could be the eddy current break which is catching. This needs to be specifically setup with a very limited tolerance, could be the break is catching.
    youd need a set of clearance gauges, it's a very similar procedure to calibrating the distance with spark plugs in a car engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixc View Post
    Note that the motor is mounted on springs and will make a noise against the eddy brake if the deck is not level.
    Does the motor spin when switched on ?

    Ps wont the motor spin even if the suppressor is open circuit?
    You would just get a noise (Spike) at switch on / off
    very good points that's why I said earlier to check the supressor.
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    Thanks for all the replies. I've spoken to Ray and apparently it is a common situation that happens during transport. Basically the disk slips down to touch the motor housing and consequently cannot spin. As such I've had to unscrew the disk clamp and raise it a couple of mms to free it. Thereafter, I've raised the magnet sitting above. A fine and delicate balancing act between the 2. Up and running thankfully..Now I just have to sort out the speed as moving the magnet has thrown it out of kilter
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    FYI to get the speed correct on my 301 i have a 240 volt light bulb in series with the motor.
    Its a 40 or a 60 watt, cant remember which one.
    My deck used to run fast till i fitted it now its perfect on 33 and i need to slow it down a touch for 45s.

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    I take it the motor was clamped when in transit, them when you set the tt up you released the red headed motor transit screws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbic View Post
    I take it the motor was clamped when in transit, them when you set the tt up you released the red headed motor transit screws?
    My first thought also - Release the transit clamp all the way down to the e-clips on each side. This is a simple job. Remove the platter, observe from above the two red flat headed screws either side of the motor in the 9 and 3 o'clock positions. loosen these all the way down.

    Should there still be a scraping / metallic ringing, adjust the height of the magnet (It may be the speed disk as budged either pushed down scraping the motor casing or less likely upwards fouling the magnet.)
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