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    The simple answer to the OP's question:

    A method of extracting large amounts of money from the gullible!

    And, no, I haven't tried one. However, I always find that line of reasoning (you have to try something before you can comment on it, etc) specious. After all, I've never tasted a dog turd but I'm very sure I wouldn't like it, howoever well it's marketed
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    Quote Originally Posted by simon g View Post
    The simple answer to the OP's question:

    A method of extracting large amounts of money from the gullible!

    And, no, I haven't tried one. However, I always find that line of reasoning (you have to try something before you can comment on it, etc) specious. After all, I've never tasted a dog turd but I'm very sure I wouldn't like it, however well it's marketed
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    Quote Originally Posted by simon g View Post
    The simple answer to the OP's question:

    A method of extracting large amounts of money from the gullible!

    And, no, I haven't tried one. However, I always find that line of reasoning (you have to try something before you can comment on it, etc) specious. After all, I've never tasted a dog turd but I'm very sure I wouldn't like it, howoever well it's marketed
    I asked what a grounding box was because I hadn't heard of them until recently. I suspected it was foo and as you say a method of separating audiophools from their money. Anything by RA is snake oil and anyone foolish enough to pay vast sums of money for a shiny fuse deserves what they get. Now RA sells grounding boxes, had I known that I wouldn't have bothered to ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YNWaN View Post
    If one comes my way I will try it out - but I'm not yet at the point where I am actively seeking the loan of one and I'm nowhere near a place where I would consider buying one out of interest.
    I read some interesting reviews of the entreq ones a few months ago , but the prices seemed bonkers. I did find a DIY you tube video for one that i actually started buying a few bits to pit together, but i got bogged down in researching the minerals to fill it. Then i splurged on a new amp with vastly improved signal to noise and a built in streamer and ive not taken the project any further. I think the theory of lower noise floor sounds plausible to me. I dont think i would notice amything on my current system though.

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    Been trying to make sense of these for a while, but it's only the coherent one that sparks my interest - and not at RRP

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    Quote Originally Posted by joolz View Post
    Been trying to make sense of these for a while, but it's only the coherent one that sparks my interest - and not at RRP
    Don't try the Coherent if you don't want to spend money
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    Make your own one 'Blue Peter' style. You'll need a cardboard box, some wire, an empty Fairy Liquid bottle (make sure you ask permission before you take it) some sticky-back plastic and a metal coat hanger.
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    Exactly. If you believe these boxes improve the sound, then make your own for a couple of quid.

    I can't fathom how they can charge hundreds for these boxes. The other ones are the grounding leads - a phono plug, bit of wire and a mains plug for hundreds of pounds.

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    Hi Mike,
    i've seen some of your previous posts on the grounding box, have you tried it on any other system or at a bake-off, if so did it make the same differences or are the differences not immediately obvious ?
    kind regards,
    Julian

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    This is a cheap shot from a dealer -

    "Exactly. If you believe these boxes improve the sound, then make your own for a couple of quid.

    I can't fathom how they can charge hundreds for these boxes. The other ones are the grounding leads - a phono plug, bit of wire and a mains plug for hundreds of pounds."



    The same could be said of any cable you sell, or any speaker. Just cobble some up with old bits from the shed, bell wire and old car speaker drive units, and wood from an old wardrobe.
    The comments add nothing to the debate, especially if you have not tried a decent grounding box.

    It still astounds me that so many people will not try something which other people have used and reported positively about, because they know it will not work.
    With such closed minds, do not try a round the world cruise because as you know the world is flat and you could fall off the edge.

    To answer a question above, when a friend first installed a grounding box it was then tried in two other systems - now we all have them.

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