I'm sure you could have avoided the patronising tone had you tried.
I'm sure you could have avoided the patronising tone had you tried.
It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!
What would be good is if a dealer of such a grounding box would lend a demo unit which could do the rounds of AoS members. Then a debate on real world usage could be had. And the dealer may even get more sales. So a win win.
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I'm Jerry.
I'm very seriously thinking of buying a grounding box.
Have been in contact with Andrew at Signal Ground Solutions regarding one of his.
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I'm Dave.
I guess that is aimed at me. If so, I can confirm that I have tried a couple of grounding boxes and a grounding lead, both courtesy of a customer considering purchase.
I stand by my query at the prices when all that is necessary is some wire or copper strip, a mains plug, phono plug and a terminal or two. Maybe they work for some people, it's the price I find difficult to swallow.
Similarly with exotic cables. I know how little some of these cost and the manufacturer's/distributor's markup is often bordering on the obscene.
I won't bother to comment on your home made speaker idea.
Hi Julian
Have offered to demo and for a bake off against an SGS
No takers so far.
My recent test was with the boss in place next to me.
3 cables disconnected from the RTZ grounder
Test
Back again
Test
She had no idea what was going on
"The second one was better"
Confirming what I heard
Differences are immediately obvious
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Mike
I would love to hear a demo but Surrey is a bit of a long way
Location: nr. Cambridge
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I'm bob.
Somebody earlier in this thread mentioned that they had a Russ Andrews Power Purifier. That is not a grounding box, but a filter.
As far as I know, RA does not have a grounding box as such, but has a system for grounding using his 'RF Router'. If all casework is linked using grounding cables, then to the RF Router, it can then be linked to an external ground spike and comply with current electrical regulations.
He doesn't have a pointless box full of beach scraping and roof repair cut offs but he does sell many bits of grounding gear based on good science.
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