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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    If you look at a LIFE TABLE which plots these probabilities it is amazing how high the probability of surviving another year, even in your 80s!
    Or keeling over within the next ten minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Or keeling over within the next ten minutes.
    As I said. The complete reverse. If you get to 84 you will probably get to 85

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    The article is quite specific in its conclusions about the population examined. Seems to have been a reasonably sized data set, if not necessarily very broad.

    I’m always rather cautious when I read the word ‘average’ as it’s essentially meaningless. I would like to know more about how the conclusions were reached. But it does seem to be based on real cases.

    If you can find a way to drill down somehow I’d be very interested in your perspective.

    We do read lots of studies that keeping active and indeed in paid employment can be good for you but I doubt there’s much evidence that working on in a corporate managerial role extends your life - the figures do rather seem to indicate the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    At the risk of stating the bleedin' obvious, LEB has increased and continues to do so. We now die slowly from chronic expensive to manage health problems. Furthermore, past investments in retirement have been too low for most people to retire comfortably.

    Don't get me started on these statistics. The conclusions, such as are implied not stated are wrong and for many reasons!
    Just depends on which statistics your use/read and how these statistics are calculated/implemented.
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    poorer people from poorer areas live shorter lives; its a statistic. now it could be because of numerous causes. i would suggest, if you quite like your job, then be wary of giving it up too early, especially if its not "too much for you". A lot of folk who retire, die early, often through boredom.
    Im severely disabled and its root causes are too much hard work. i should have taken my mother's advice and done less, but i enjoyed it, and needed the money so i did it. Living a long life, if your not happy isnt something to be desired. Retire if you can afford to and live a lower standard of life, enjoying the little things in life, like getting up when you want, and laughing at the rat race etc. If you enjoy it, then dont retire as it can kill you.
    Trust me, i know of plenty folk forced to retire that died early, and plenty like me who went on too long doing more than they were able. Money aint everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    As I said. The complete reverse. If you get to 84 you will probably get to 85
    There's the old joke

    "Who wants to live to be 95?"

    "A 94 year old".

    I think Segovia wrote a short passage in his latter years, asking God to forgive him for all the mistakes he made while playing, and to let him have just one more year (at least?) to perfect his technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Just depends on which statistics your use/read and how these statistics are calculated/implemented.
    No. There is statistical method to establish causality and for dealing with "confounding variables"!

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    The usual clickbait for 'early retirement' pension schemes. Assumed causality does not a fact make

    If you believe this kind of BS you probably will die early -- from the induced neurotic stress.

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    Have wanted to be out of this game for a long time.

    Work has long been a bag of stress and pressure.

    I remember when you worked hard but a least you were allowed to get on with things.

    Suddenly companies moved heavily to a focus of tendoring and contracting out, so changes and much more expectation of each individual.

    In the past 5 / 6 years or so the pace of change and churn has been crazy, unhealthy and unbearable.

    Employees face restructure after restructure, re-interview after re-interview, increase in expectaion under the guise of 'multi disciplinary working'

    The world we know has gone way too far the extreme end of things.

    Of course people want to work and work hard too but they are having the very life squeezed out of them by the demands and expectation from their employers, companies, organisations, businesses and as a result stress is literally sapping the life out of Mums, Dads, people, having a very negative knock on effect.

    This current system and order of things is killing people, their joy and sense of life

    My hope is to be out of it sooner rather than later, somehow, some way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    No. There is statistical method to establish causality and for dealing with "confounding variables"!
    As I said it depends on how you use and manipulate statistics.!
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