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  1. #201
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    Think thats why lidl and Adi do so well now, as many have realised they can buy the same for less in these shops. Lots of fancy cars in their carparks these days.
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    Yes, including mine - and that's why we go there! If it was just full of poor quality cheap shit, such as found in Farmfoods and the like, we wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

    The reality is the complete opposite. But try telling the snobs that, who've been conditioned to believe that Lidl is 'inferior' to Tesco, Asda or whatever Maybe they're just too married to the brand names that they've grown up with?

    After all, big companies spend millions of pounds on advertising, and building a brand, to brainwash you by subliminally implanting it in your mind... I'm not kidding either! And people are notoriously creatures of habit, who unless prompted differently, will continue doing the same things all the time.

    I still think that a good grasp of home economics, or the lack thereof, these days is a big factor in some of the problems we're discussing.

    As soon as Del was old enough, she was entrusted by her parents to deposit the cash and cheques, from their catering business, into the bank and pay the household bills, and she learned from her mum how to cook and look after a home. I was the same, with the stuff from my dad's business, apart from the cooking bit! But he taught me how to do the books, which was invaluable to me later when I started my own business. It also helped with my arithmetic!

    How many kids could you say the same for these days, and *why* aren't they getting access to that type of education at an early age, at least from their parents?

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  3. #203
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yes, including mine - and that's why we go there! If it was just full of poor quality cheap shit, such as found in Farmfoods and the like, we wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

    The reality is the complete opposite. But try telling the snobs that, who've been conditioned to believe that Lidl is 'inferior' to Tesco, Asda or whatever Maybe they're just too married to the brand names that they've grown up with?

    After all, big companies spend millions of pounds on advertising, and building a brand, to brainwash you by subliminally implanting it in your mind... I'm not kidding either! And people are notoriously creatures of habit, who unless prompted differently, will continue doing the same things all the time.

    I still think that a good grasp of home economics, or the lack thereof, these days is a big factor in some of the problems we're discussing.

    As soon as Del was old enough, she was entrusted by her parents to deposit the cash and cheques, from their catering business, into the bank and pay the household bills, and she learned from her mum how to cook and look after a home. I was the same, with the stuff from my dad's business, apart from the cooking bit! But he taught me how to do the books, which was invaluable to me later when I started my own business. It also helped with my arithmetic!

    How many kids could you say the same for these days, and *why* aren't they getting access to that type of education at an early age, at least from their parents?

    Marco.
    sure... ive used both for years as i agree with you. Daughter does most of hers in Aldi, with a bit elsewhere if they want a change. reckons they get a free holiday out of it
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

  4. #204
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    Indeed, Aldi is similar... What's your view on my point about home economics?

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  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Indeed... What's your view on my point about home economics?

    Marco.
    well cooking and bookkeeping have always gone together

    yup, my mum taught me cooking as a young teenager; said it would be useful. my dad was an accountant to trade and i was always top of class in arithmetic. both should be essential training at school for all
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Now, the pertinent question is....

    WHY (arithmetic aside) is it no longer being taught, and might that largely explain why so many folks these days, in that respect, are clueless?

    Marco.
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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

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    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    We didn't have home economics at my school and I would not be happy if my son was being taught home economics either.

    If you want to learn to cook buy a cook book, and budgeting and running a household is just common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    We didn't have home economics at my school
    We didn't either. The blokes in the B stream did woodwork or metalwork; for the rest of us it was books, books and more books. At my daughters' schools, the less-gifted girls did cookery (which has been variously known as Domestic Science, Domestic Economy and Home Economics, but was/is cookery) whilst the brainy ones stuck to academic subjects after the first couple of years.

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    I must admit I was pleasantly surprised by the quality and (low) prices I found on a recent visit to Lidl. Actually amazed is more the word. I would go there regularly but SWMBO prefers somewhere more expensive and I'm never going to win that arguements!
    As to why youngsters are poor at the domestic stuff, well there are take-aways every 10 meters, kids delivering pizza 24 x7 in most neighbourhoods, ready meals cheaper in supermarkets than you could buy the ingredients for and armies of people ready to clean your house for a lower hourly rate than yours. I'm not supporting any of this, just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Y

    As soon as Del was old enough, she was entrusted by her parents to deposit the cash and cheques, from their catering business, into the bank and pay the household bills, and she learned from her mum how to cook and look after a home. I was the same, with the stuff from my dad's business, apart from the cooking bit! But he taught me how to do the books, which was invaluable to me later when I started my own business. It also helped with my arithmetic!

    How many kids could you say the same for these days, and *why* aren't they getting access to that type of education at an early age, at least from their parents?

    Marco.
    In my case, there was no-one to teach me. My father was paid weekly, in cash. He handed the money to my mother, who put the money behind the clock on the mantlepiece in the dining room, and helped herself to money when she went shopping or paid bills. It was entirely cash-based, so there were no 'books' to keep. Sometimes the money would run out before the week ended, and we'd have to pretend to be out when someone (eg the milkman) wanted paying. My parents didn't have a bank account or cheque books until long after I'd left home, and never had any sort of credit or debit card. I had to teach myself how to budget, which only became a necessity once I'd taken on a mortgage.

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