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    Today i had the supreme pleasure of hosting a little digital bakeoff at my humble abode.

    The real purpose of this was so that Steve (STD305) could come and have a listen to the Krell KSA100 MK2. Now as 90% of the gear listened to was owned by me, I am not going to say anything about how my system performed, i will leave that to Steve.

    What i will say is what was used and how i felt it ranked.

    System used was:

    1.2A DCB1 with Khozmo preamp.
    SPOTFIRE Cables
    Krell KSA100 MK2
    SPOTFIRE Speaker Cables
    Pioneer CS-77A

    First up was the Recently loaned to me Raspberry Pi With Allo Boss DAC:



    I have been so impressed by this little thing that i had to buy one. I just can't fathom how this little unit does so much good for so little money. Before any one says "why is there a record weight on there" It's there to hold it down! It's too lght and the cables just move it where ever they want.

    If anyone wants to know what i think of this Pi, read here: https://theartofsound.net/forum/show...nvisible-media!

    We listened to a few tracks, discussed what we heard and decided to compare it to Steves GBP1200 Cyrus CD player:



    We used Steve Miller for this one and in about 30 seconds, Steve turned it off. "That sounds Shit!"

    We tried another CD and it sounded better but to me, it didn't reach the HD levels of the Pi. We were a little surprised and to be honest, we laughed a bit too. This little box of Pi was kicking Ass.

    I then threw my Sony CDP into the Mix. It came to me via the generousity of Macca so it really owed nothing at all :



    Once again we laughed. The feebie Sony was prefered to the Cyrus but still sits well behind the Pi. What is this little gadget doing to all of my pre conceived ideas of HIFI!!!

    In next went a left field CDP. My Yamaha CDP- 385 (?) Unfortunatly, i didnt take a Pic!!

    This was when things became very interesting. The Pi, or me was still better but this closed the gap. It showed the Sony to be muddy, almost smeared. It also had a little more richness or "luxury" in the mids compared to the Pi but it coudnt match the Pi's HF quality.

    Again though, the Cyrus was lacking in the rankings now dropping to fourth against the PI, Yamaha and the Sony.

    We were very surprised. So surprised we spent the next 30 minutes looking at Pi's for Steve lol.

    We also played a bit of vinyl but as that was all my gear, i'll leave Steve to describe how he thought it sounded.

    Overall, a great day and totally interesting to see how everything compared.

    A few gratuitous pics of the rig:



    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK6 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Bigbottle Jfet MC Valve Phonostage (Telefunken Valves)
    Digital: Raspberry Pi 3+/Allo Boss 1.2/Isolator 1.3 & 2x LPSU's with Volumio & JRiver
    Amplification: Nelson Pass DCB1 with Khozmo 48 Step Series Attenuator & Krell KSA100 MK2 Amplifier
    Cables: SPOTFIRE Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable
    Speakers: Pioneer CS-77A
    Price List For SPOTFIRE Cables here:https://bit.ly/2Uxiv3j

    Alternative reading: http://www.audioaddictsforum.com

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    Sounds like a good day. I keep meaning to look into PIs, but I still can't get my head around how they work within the chain!

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    Sounds like a good test for the pi. I've got 2. Both on volumio and mostly driven wireless ly from my laptop running audirvana. I have worth trying that out as with pc doing a chunk of the processing up scaling it etc the pi runs really well
    Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Sounds like a good test for the pi. I've got 2. Both on volumio and mostly driven wireless ly from my laptop running audirvana. I have worth trying that out as with pc doing a chunk of the processing up scaling it etc the pi runs really well
    I am not ready for that yet Grant, My mind isn't fully compliant with how it all works. I will get there though.
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK6 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Bigbottle Jfet MC Valve Phonostage (Telefunken Valves)
    Digital: Raspberry Pi 3+/Allo Boss 1.2/Isolator 1.3 & 2x LPSU's with Volumio & JRiver
    Amplification: Nelson Pass DCB1 with Khozmo 48 Step Series Attenuator & Krell KSA100 MK2 Amplifier
    Cables: SPOTFIRE Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable
    Speakers: Pioneer CS-77A
    Price List For SPOTFIRE Cables here:https://bit.ly/2Uxiv3j

    Alternative reading: http://www.audioaddictsforum.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crackles View Post
    Sounds like a good day. I keep meaning to look into PIs, but I still can't get my head around how they work within the chain!

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
    They are actually easier than i thought. A few folks here are more capable than me at guiding on this subject.
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK6 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Bigbottle Jfet MC Valve Phonostage (Telefunken Valves)
    Digital: Raspberry Pi 3+/Allo Boss 1.2/Isolator 1.3 & 2x LPSU's with Volumio & JRiver
    Amplification: Nelson Pass DCB1 with Khozmo 48 Step Series Attenuator & Krell KSA100 MK2 Amplifier
    Cables: SPOTFIRE Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable
    Speakers: Pioneer CS-77A
    Price List For SPOTFIRE Cables here:https://bit.ly/2Uxiv3j

    Alternative reading: http://www.audioaddictsforum.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    They are actually easier than i thought. A few folks here are more capable than me at guiding on this subject.
    Someone explained it to me in detail at Kegworth last year, but I then went home and forgot everything they said .

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    Need to get head round wifi but other than that it's not much different to any computer or smartphone. It has an os then you feed it music and it feeds the stereo
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ

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    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    You can do the WiFi via the Volumio setup I believe.
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK6 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Bigbottle Jfet MC Valve Phonostage (Telefunken Valves)
    Digital: Raspberry Pi 3+/Allo Boss 1.2/Isolator 1.3 & 2x LPSU's with Volumio & JRiver
    Amplification: Nelson Pass DCB1 with Khozmo 48 Step Series Attenuator & Krell KSA100 MK2 Amplifier
    Cables: SPOTFIRE Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable
    Speakers: Pioneer CS-77A
    Price List For SPOTFIRE Cables here:https://bit.ly/2Uxiv3j

    Alternative reading: http://www.audioaddictsforum.com

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    Yup. I it's just getting used to how it all just works once set that folk often struggle to get. It's a bit of a leap of technology for many initially but if you stick with it you score
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    OPPO BDP-103D DARBEE - JBE SERIES 3/B&O SP1/PROJECT PHONOBOX DS2 USB - QUAD VENA 2 - IFI PURIFIER 2/TWIN PRO MONOBLOCK POWER AMPLIFIERS - LEAF HD BLUETOOTH - OPPO PM-3 PLANAR, SONY H900 & NURAPHONE HEADPHONES - ZBOOK/ IFI SILENCER/WIN10 PRO/AUDIRVANA 3 PLUS/TIDAL - SMSL M6 DAC & IFI SILENCER - RPI 3+, DIGIONE HAT/VOLUMIO2 - FULL RANGE TWIN TELEFUNKEN SPEAKERS - CABLE INC CHORD, MOGAMI, SUPRA & WIREWORLD

    **Men are not punished for their sins, but by them**
    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Yup. I it's just getting used to how it all just works once set that folk often struggle to get. It's a bit of a leap of technology for many initially but if you stick with it you score
    I'll be setting one up from scratch soon so I might do a total beginner guide!
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK6 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Bigbottle Jfet MC Valve Phonostage (Telefunken Valves)
    Digital: Raspberry Pi 3+/Allo Boss 1.2/Isolator 1.3 & 2x LPSU's with Volumio & JRiver
    Amplification: Nelson Pass DCB1 with Khozmo 48 Step Series Attenuator & Krell KSA100 MK2 Amplifier
    Cables: SPOTFIRE Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable
    Speakers: Pioneer CS-77A
    Price List For SPOTFIRE Cables here:https://bit.ly/2Uxiv3j

    Alternative reading: http://www.audioaddictsforum.com

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