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    Removed just 3 cables to the RTZ. 2 from the CD/Pre, 1 from the Power Amp.
    Played. Seemed constrained to me, limited.

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    You are right Mike, you can't unlearn anything; our brain is a survival tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    You are right Mike, you can't unlearn anything; our brain is a survival tool.
    I managed to unlearn most of what I was taught at school.

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    I've unlearned most things I found in needed, to make room for that, that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    I managed to unlearn most of what I was taught at school.
    The only thing I've unlearned is how to write properly. My handwriting is now appalling (and to think I used to do calligraphy ).
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    The only thing I've unlearned is how to write properly. My handwriting is now appalling (and to think I used to do calligraphy ).
    Very little remains with me from most subjects, apart from English and history.

    Geography: I just about remember how ox-bow lakes are formed

    Chemistry: I remember the formula for sulphuric acid

    Physics: A complete blank

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    Maths: Something about pies being squared

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    Very little remains with me from most subjects, apart from English and history.

    Geography: I just about remember how ox-bow lakes are formed

    Chemistry: I remember the formula for sulphuric acid

    Physics: A complete blank

    Latin: Caesar ederat, Brutus ad sum tu. Caesar sic in omnibus, Brutus sic inat.

    Maths: Something about pies being squared

    French: Honi soit qui mal y pense
    Ah. Oxbow lakes are redundant river meanders.

    I still know a bit of useful chemistry.

    Physics? I'm not too bad on.

    Latin? Not a hope.

    My maths is OK.

    French? Well I'm half French!
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Are these grounding boxes you've been talking about different from Russ Andrews' stuff?

    https://www.russandrews.com/the-rf-router-mk-2/

    It can connect to an outdoor earth spike (legal) and he sells you nice woven Kimbercable grouding wires which of course keep out the RFI. An easy way to give him several hundred quid.

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    Yes, we're talking about a number of different bits
    ENTREQ- wooden cigar boxes full of pointless shit
    Coherent GTZ- a grounding box that actually does ground.
    Russ Andrews, - a grounding box that does ground
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    No!

    The Russ Andrews item, once your hifi casework is connected to it, then needs to be connected to ground which would normally be a garden spike. It is not a ground itself.

    Most others are 'floating' grounds which can be connected to casework, but more likely to the negative side of a terminal such as an RCA or other terminal.

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