What constitutes a grounding box?

[Macca]

I'm convinced the sound is better with the RTZ

I gathered that -- but for me personally I would need to be able to pick it out consistently in a blind test to be convinced because I have experience of how much our imagination contributes to what we hear. Although I grant you sometimes I wish I didn't have that experience as it does take some of the fun out of the hobby. But you can't unlearn.

[Wakefield Turntables]

I have to admire Mike's tenacity posting on this thread.

Hey, if this is what he hears, it's what he hears. As you know every system is different. I'm always sceptical about things like power cables but I have an open mind. I did have an interesting experience this week. I've been modding a few bits in the system again and I decided to swap over a power cable for something a little different I had sitting around in another system. The power cable was swapped around in a PSU to a turntable. I THINK I heard more detail in that I think I heard a slightly clearer presentation of the music I listened to. The cable was a DIY jobbie, probably about £60's worth, it dosen't mean I'd spend the £60 on the parts to make a new cable. I don't think the improvement was worth the cash, now if I noticed a BIG step up then I would pay the cash.

[jandl100]

Hey, if this is what he hears, it's what he hears.

Absolutely.
I was just admiring his tenacity in the face of the doubters.
-- and then throwing the cable stuff in as well. Whoo !!

Me? I've got a grounding box on the way.

[dave2010]

Stab at being technical
All kit has an operating voltage of zero to x.
Kit doesn't seem to get to zero or even moves around so is not operating right.
This seems to have a knock on to sound quality
The grounding works on the box it is connected to by taking the voltage that should be zero to zero.
All connections are to RCA and other sockets via the outer (ground ?)
No earth connections. These are different

Is it possible that the GB is simply a link to a RLC network which is somehow draining off charge? Does it make a difference where the box is put - for example on a chair, on the floor, on a sheet of metal, on an piece of inslating material. I'm assuming for moment that it's not non-linear - which it may be, and would complicate things more

[MikeMusic]

I have to admire Mike's tenacity posting on this thread.

I have tenace

[MikeMusic]

Is it possible that the GB is simply a link to a RLC network which is somehow draining off charge? Does it make a difference where the box is put - for example on a chair, on the floor, on a sheet of metal, on an piece of inslating material. I'm assuming for moment that it's not non-linear - which it may be, and would complicate things more

Oh gawd I hope not !

Currently sitting on its own Black Ravioli on a Creaktiv rack

[MikeMusic]

I gathered that -- but for me personally I would need to be able to pick it out consistently in a blind test to be convinced because I have experience of how much our imagination contributes to what we hear. Although I grant you sometimes I wish I didn't have that experience as it does take some of the fun out of the hobby. But you can't unlearn.

I hear the improvements.
Double check
Call in reinforcements - they confirm
Done

[MikeMusic]

Is it possible that the GB is simply a link to a RLC network which is somehow draining off charge? Does it make a difference where the box is put - for example on a chair, on the floor, on a sheet of metal, on an piece of inslating material. I'm assuming for moment that it's not non-linear - which it may be, and would complicate things more

This knowledge is above my paygrade Dave

[dave2010]

Oh gawd I hope not !

Currently sitting on its own Black Ravioli on a Creaktiv rack

Well, you have the kit. You could try putting it on different surfaces to see if you think it alters the sound, and report back.

Also you say you hear improvements, but what form do they take? Less noise? Smoother response? Sharper attack? More ambience? etc.

[MikeMusic]

Well, you have the kit. You could try putting it on different surfaces to see if you think it alters the sound, and report back.

Also you say you hear improvements, but what form do they take? Less noise? Smoother response? Sharper attack? More ambience? etc.

My guess is I already have the optimum with BR and Creaktiv
Added granite coasters on top, knowing they wouldn't make a difference - they did. That was a surprise.

The differences were in just about everything.
More space in the music, greater separation, more detail, more, clearer bass, clearer diction in speech and singing, more presence, reality.

Rarely have I ever heard such improvements.
Not subtle