What constitutes a grounding box?

[Berni217]

Well put Martin, I think your response pretty much mirror's my feelings on the subject.



Eh! You don't use tweaks, yet you report some improvement. Where exactly? Have you tried the grounding box in your equipment and then heard an improvement? I don't understand your comments, can you clarify?

Please read my post ...
Reading your signatures, you are using many many more tweaks than me in your systems Mr.

Anyway, I am just a music lover and you should ask the experts how these boxes work ... my understanding is that the Entreq use piezo electric material to convert RFI into heat.

The Silver Minimus Entreq works for me, in my system. It might not work in others but I don’t really care!

This thread is becoming ridiculous because of you people who have not tried these boxes and are writing some elaborated and unfounded judgment.

Like anything Hifi, please get in touch with a dealer and get a home demo,it will cost you almost nothing!

This is my last post on this topic!


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[Firebottle]

OK I have a theory, but that's all it is. Hear me out.

These days we are all surrounded by radio/mobile/TV/wi-fi radio frequency (RF) signals, a lot in fact.
The tests performed on the grounding box were only at audio frequencies.

When in a patchy mobile coverage area I have found that standing next to a metal lamp/electricity pole improves things.

Exactly how all this RF impacts on the performance of any system is questionable, but having a lump of unobrainious material may just act as a local RF sink that concentrates the RF fields away from system, to the benefit of the system as a whole.

[MikeMusic]

I don't understand why you were surprised as you've tried a lot of <debatable> tweaks in your system (mains cables, special fuses, special stands, cones, weights etc) and you always report an improvement. Didn't you also find that putting granite place mats on top of the RTZ and 'black ravioli' feet under it improved the sound?

Sorry but I don't really buy your line that you were sceptical about this device to begin with and were amazed that it had an effect.

All tweaks are debatable Try before you buy
What is in this system now works and very well.
A Grounding box seemed a flight of fancy to me, maybe there could be a subtle difference - I thought
The RTZ comes with Black Ravioli fitted.
The improvements were noticeable with each cable added
Yes, I tried a granite placemat on the RTZ, knowing it wouldn't make any difference. Surprised it did.
A brick would probably work as well just won't look so good

As above I can demo this in North West Surrey
Try any of the tweaks above in any decent system and there will be an improvement.

Grounding boxes is Mains cables squared in most places.

If anyone wants to hear more from their system try some, all of this stuff out.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Please read my post ...
Reading your signatures, you are using many many more tweaks than me in your systems Mr.

Anyway, I am just a music lover and you should ask the experts how these boxes work ... my understanding is that the Entreq use piezo electric material to convert RFI into heat.

The Silver Minimus Entreq works for me, in my system. It might not work in others but I don’t really care!

This thread is becoming ridiculous because of you people who have not tried these boxes and are writing some elaborated and unfounded judgment.

Like anything Hifi, please get in touch with a dealer and get a home demo,it will cost you almost nothing!

This is my last post on this topic!


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Aha, so you do use a "tweak" in the form of a grounding box, earlier, you said you didn't?? To date I have made no comment or opinion on how these components work. I'm open to try one, and yes I love to "tweak" hi-fi. So I would suggest you read MY posts before posting any further additional confusing and confrontation replies.

OK I have a theory, but that's all it is. Hear me out.

These days we are all surrounded by radio/mobile/TV/wi-fi radio frequency (RF) signals, a lot in fact.
The tests performed on the grounding box were only at audio frequencies.

When in a patchy mobile coverage area I have found that standing next to a metal lamp/electricity pole improves things.

Exactly how all this RF impacts on the performance of any system is questionable, but having a lump of unobrainious material may just act as a local RF sink that concentrates the RF fields away from system, to the benefit of the system as a whole.

Well, it sounds as good as anything else.

[sq225917]

Alan how does it sink this rf? Through the extraneous wire that connects it to the hifi???

Or do you believe it 'clears the air' to coin a phrase? In which case plugging it directly to the wall is a better sink, surely?

On one hand we have a guy with an Audio Precision showing it injects 30db of broadband noise into a connected device and on the other hand we have vapid conjecture.

I'm ok with the line ' I like the sound of an extra 30db of broadband noise polluting my signal path' people are want to
like all sorts on un-fi shit.

I look forward to the manufacturer showing any case in which it reduces noise. Roflmao...

[AJSki2fly]

[struth]

we are straying toward insulting folks opinions tho, so remember folks, this is a subjectivist site and folk are allowed to discuss this without being slagged off..

[Firebottle]

Alan how does it sink this rf? Through the extraneous wire that connects it to the hifi???

Or do you believe it 'clears the air' to coin a phrase? In which case plugging it directly to the wall is a better sink, surely?
Roflmao...

I didn't say I believed anything, I put forward a theory that's all.

Perhaps it acts as an RF field concentrator that removes the concentration from the hi-fi boxes? Sink is the wrong word.

[Mixc]

This thread has made me smile..
Some post are serious and some not so...
I did a google on Entreq and found a lot of adverts, Lots of shops selling these ??
I also found a discussion from 2 years ago titled...
"VEntreq: $9,000 for a Wood Box of Dirt" There are some good posts (Worth a read if you liked this thread)

Its here https://www.head-fi.org/threads/entr...f-dirt.828707/

PS Happy New Year to everyone

[dave2010]

In post 87 I gave a hint of a suggestion - but not an explanation. The suggestion that the box raises the noise level - could perhaps have an effect, but not at the levels suggested. To get any effect the noise level would have to be (IMO) around or above the threshold of audibility. Measurements way down below the threshold of audibility - no! Not credible - IMO.