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  1. #681
    Join Date: Jan 2013

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    Yes very smart and tidy minimalist TT
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

    Second System : Goldring Lenco GL75 / AT95EX / Pioneer SX590 / Spendor SP2

  2. #682
    Join Date: Oct 2008

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    Musics playing and Nipper approved.
    Set it all up this afternoon, not dialled in the cartridge settings properly yet, just a quick few tracks to test all's well and working.



    Running setup completely balanced Cartridge to preamp, liking what Im hearing.
    Phonostage and turntable powered by linear PSUs fed from the balanced mains unit too, so things in place to get the best out of it.

    Might look at replacement feet down the line, as no space for an isolation platform under the telly (turntables a chunky boy)
    Can't hear anything through speakers when I tap the plinth, so doing a good job As-is.
    The feet seem to have a middle layer of sorbothane, and are slightly squishy.
    I've sat them on Soundamped Steel isolation plates anyway, as I found they work really well on glass and only add a few mm to overall height.


    Gratuitous tonearm shot


    The arm feels solid, and I like the idea of a 1 piece carbon fibre armtube.
    Cueing mechanism feels flimsy though compared to the Rega arm, with no real damping as you lower the stylus. (Points off Pro-Ject)

    Not having an exposed catilever like the Rega cart though means I can chill and enjoy playing records a bit more, no more getting "The Fear" when cueing up a record!

    Different sound to the Rega, early days yet but a bit less clinical sounding maybe? Music a bit more enjoyable through the Pro-Ject?
    Probably more forgiving to less than perfect pressings as well, which isn't a bad thing.

    Still to dial best cartridge settings in, do that later today.
    Tracking force is set to recommended 2.3g, confirmed with an electronic stylus gauge

    Whats quite cool is with the Phonostage, you can tweak the cartridge loading in real time as your playing, letting you dial in by ear.
    No more Dipswitches!

    The other possible negative isn't unexpected, but is what it is.
    The piano black finish is a feckin' dust magnet!
    Good job its got a dust cover.

    Gonna enjoy this thing.
    Selling the Rega was the right thing for me, just wasnt enjoying playing records as much as I should.
    Also wasnt sold on the looks, especially given the cost of it.
    Much prefer the look of the Pro-Ject.

    Soundwise I would say the P10, because it was so clean, had close to a Digital sound, and that with pops n clicks isn't much fun.
    Vinyl didn't have that vinyl "thing" with the Rega, and I think thats what I missed.
    The Pro-Ject has it, still as clear and transparent, especially going balanced, but a less Forensic flavour to making music, which I prefer.

    Good stuff.
    Last edited by Gazjam; 23-07-2023 at 19:20.
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4 (Modded)
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge (not Modded
    )
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    CD PLAYBACK - Shanling ET3 CD Transport over i2s to Dac + MOVIE PLAYBACK Oppo 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac)
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Shanling via Airplay 1 (losslessly) and onwards to Dac via Wireworld Silver Electra 7 i2s HDMI cable
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Biwire from Meridian 557 amp to speakers - Duelund DCA10GA on both bass and treble runs
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables


    Sounds pretty good!

  3. #683
    Join Date: Feb 2013

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    I'm Grant.

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    pleased your happy mate...
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

  4. #684
    Join Date: Aug 2009

    Location: Staffordshire, England

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    I'm Martin.

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    It's a good-looking deck - and arm.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

  5. #685
    Join Date: Feb 2013

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    I'm Grant.

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    is that the X8 tt?
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

  6. #686
    Join Date: Oct 2008

    Location: Glasgowshire

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    I'm Gary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    is that the X8 tt?
    Yeah Grant,

    it's the X8.
    https://www.project-audio.com/en/product/x8/
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4 (Modded)
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge (not Modded
    )
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    CD PLAYBACK - Shanling ET3 CD Transport over i2s to Dac + MOVIE PLAYBACK Oppo 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac)
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Shanling via Airplay 1 (losslessly) and onwards to Dac via Wireworld Silver Electra 7 i2s HDMI cable
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Biwire from Meridian 557 amp to speakers - Duelund DCA10GA on both bass and treble runs
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables


    Sounds pretty good!

  7. #687
    Join Date: Feb 2013

    Location: W Lothian

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    I'm Grant.

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    Lovely jubbly.. quality kit
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

  8. #688
    Join Date: Jan 2013

    Location: Birmingham

    Posts: 7,029
    I'm James.

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    Yeah very nice and not surprised in your comparison with the Rega. I was warned by a friend about some turntables that ironed out so much they became clinical and CD like in their nature especially at the high end so can completely understand your decision to buy and try the Project.
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

    Second System : Goldring Lenco GL75 / AT95EX / Pioneer SX590 / Spendor SP2

  9. #689
    Join Date: Oct 2008

    Location: Glasgowshire

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    I'm Gary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Yeah very nice and not surprised in your comparison with the Rega. I was warned by a friend about some turntables that ironed out so much they became clinical and CD like in their nature especially at the high end so can completely understand your decision to buy and try the Project.
    Yup,
    pretty much where I was coming from James.

    I'd describe that as the P10's sound.

    It was when I caught myself thinking maybe I need to spend more on a phonostage to get the P10 to "sing" I thought summit must be up?
    Been playing records all day and having a blast,
    can already hear things opening up with some hours on them.

    Happily the X8 was a punt that paid off.
    Been on a bit of a Balanced "Mission" of late, and getting the Vinyl to benefit from it ticked my boxes.

    Mission accomplished I reckon.

  10. #690
    Join Date: May 2011

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    I'm Brian.

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    Very nice mate. I'll be over for a listen as soon as...
    Regards
    Brian

    Sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment . (Rumi )


    Korus Computer Audio music server
    JustBoom DAC . HRT Musicstreamer 2
    Amplifier : Sony TA FB740R
    Speakers : Tannoy 637
    Interconnects : MS Audio / Klotz MC5000 .
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