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    Join Date: Nov 2008

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    Looks like HMV are once again in trouble. Will they go the way of HEAD, I hope not.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46699290
    Regards Neil

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    Oh dear, hope not but I suppose the smaller independent record shops might benefit from less competition, a poor silver lining I suppose .
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    Streaming is killing everything else. Simple as that. I think we'll always have a few little shops selling vinyl just like we will always have those little antique shops, that's a niche market that will persist. But high-street chain stores making a profit from selling physical media? No chance. It's all over bar the crying.
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    Shopping centres and high street retailers as we know them are doomed. There are no end of blocks and rows of shops being pulled down and replaced by big blocks of flats around here.
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    things change i guess. like the spinning jenny and the raveling nancy. guessing they need to be productive in modern parlance and big stores in big towns isnt the answer. amazon lead the way, and although they are playing with the odd shop its on-line where the money is, and hmv just haven't managed to get their brand successfully on line
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    Food, clothes, gift cards, pawnbrokers, charity shops and 'personal grooming' shops are all that will be left soon. There's also the bookmakers but I reckon they will eventually be on-line only too.


    Here they are re-purposing the old shops to accommodation rather than pulling them down. I'm curious to see what will happen to the 'retail parks'. You can't turn a big metal shed into flats so I guess at some point they will all be knocked down and housing estates built on them.
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    I was watching some plonker called Nico Macdonald (whoever he is) commenting about this on BBC News. He must have said "you know" twenty times during a couple of minutes of interview .
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    HMV - dear to my heart.

    First ever proper holiday job. Spent about month there between term times Christmas (probably 1972). HMV Oxford Street store - massively busy. All vinyl except for small selection of 8 track stuff. Upstairs in the classical section lots of R2R stuff.
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    Sadly if HMV go, Fopp will go as well

    For me there will be no reason to go up to Belfast if HMV goes, there just aren't enough shops there now to draw me up.

    Who would ever have thought people would buy the Emperors New Clothes, pay for something you don't actually own, or exists. I hate it
    Regards Neil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L View Post
    Who would ever have thought people would buy the Emperors New Clothes, pay for something you don't actually own, or exists. I hate it
    Yep. Living in the future sucks (except for the giant tellys of course). But look on the bright side, the streaming services are losing more money each year than the (new) HMV started with and there's no end in sight to that so they might all close down as well before long.
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