Brand new records

[Gaz]

For those who didn't see my previous threads I've recently bought a used Project Debut TT and was initially quite unimpressed
I got a couple of brand new albums for Christmas (Dark Side of the Moon and U2 Greatest Hits, both remastered 180gsm) and have been blown away at how much better they sound to my old collection, I know it's a cliché but the difference is night and day.
I didn't realise just how badly my old records have been looked after (oops)
I know nothing can be done about scratches but are the cheaper cleaning machined (knosti) going to get my old vinyl close to a brand new record or am I expecting too much?

[struth]

For those who didn't see my previous threads I've recently bought a used Project Debut TT and was initially quite unimpressed
I got a couple of brand new albums for Christmas (Dark Side of the Moon and U2 Greatest Hits, both remastered 180gsm) and have been blown away at how much better they sound to my old collection, I know it's a cliché but the difference is night and day.
I didn't realise just how badly my old records have been looked after (oops)
I know nothing can be done about scratches but are the cheaper cleaning machined (knosti) going to get my old vinyl close to a brand new record or am I expecting too much?

wont do much with ticks or jumps but will reduce noise etc if records are not ruined by a duff arm/stylus. try getting someone close by to clean a couple and see what the results are.

[Stryder5]

For those who didn't see my previous threads I've recently bought a used Project Debut TT and was initially quite unimpressed
I got a couple of brand new albums for Christmas (Dark Side of the Moon and U2 Greatest Hits, both remastered 180gsm) and have been blown away at how much better they sound to my old collection, I know it's a cliché but the difference is night and day.
I didn't realise just how badly my old records have been looked after (oops)
I know nothing can be done about scratches but are the cheaper cleaning machined (knosti) going to get my old vinyl close to a brand new record or am I expecting too much?

I did say in one of your earlier posts that you would need a record cleaner

Yes the Knosti will have a very beneficial effect on your old records, I find that some of my old (very old) records that were totally abandoned in the loft sound as good as new vinyl, after cleaning.

In fact some new pressings are crap by comparison.

Gary

[Gaz]

I did say in one of your earlier posts that you would need a record cleaner

Yes the Knosti will have a very beneficial effect on your old records, I find that some of my old (very old) records that were totally abandoned in the loft sound as good as new vinyl, after cleaning.

In fact some new pressings are crap by comparison.

Gary

I had remembered your advice, I just wondered how much improvement I could expect.

I bought a very clean looking 2nd hand album (Fleetwood Mac, Rumours) and was quite disappointed by that althought it was suggested that it wasn't a particularly good recording to start with.

[AJSki2fly]

I know nothing can be done about scratches but are the cheaper cleaning machined (knosti) going to get my old vinyl close to a brand new record or am I expecting too much?

Have look at this thread that I started on cleaning records and what I am trying to establish, it might help you initially. I started with a Knosti and it does a reasonable job, but you need to definitely think about making a vacuum set up to suck the liquid off with the crap, but doing something is better than nothing, especially if you carefully rinse with distilled water and then allow to dry.

Good luck.

[Mike Reed]

It may be that your old records are worn; this can reduce dynamics and general playback quality. It can be that your arm/cart. like the extra height of the 180 g (i.e. they're not ideally set for thinner records with regard to VTA). I've yet to buy a remastered 180g new record which satisfies, so I've stopped buying them.

[Pigmy Pony]

It may be that your old records are worn; this can reduce dynamics and general playback quality. It can be that your arm/cart. like the extra height of the 180 g (i.e. they're not ideally set for thinner records with regard to VTA). I've yet to buy a remastered 180g new record which satisfies, so I've stopped buying them.

Wow, that is something I'd never considered! So it's possible that the difference in thickness between my 180g records and the rest (most) of my records which aren't, can affect the sound? My cartridge is Ortofon 2M Black which I heard is a bit critical of VTA.

[Pigmy Pony]

This may be the reason my Fidelity HF43 record player with six disc autochanger sounded a bit shit. Although the discs sliding against each other may have been a contributing factor.

[Barry]

This may be the reason my Fidelity HF43 record player with six disc autochanger sounded a bit shit. Although the discs sliding against each other may have been a contributing factor.

That is why 45rpm 'singles' have a raised, serrated ring near the centre hole to stop that from happening. You weren't playing 33rpm LPs on your autochanger were you?!

[Macca]

Wow, that is something I'd never considered! So it's possible that the difference in thickness between my 180g records and the rest (most) of my records which aren't, can affect the sound? My cartridge is Ortofon 2M Black which I heard is a bit critical of VTA.

In theory yes but in practice any audible effect is likely to be swamped by a host other factors.