"Ello John dya drive a motor"

[struth]

last job for a company i worked 9.30 to 9.30 13 days from 14, with 2 hrs off in afternoon if you got lucky.. slave labour tbh.

[Pigmy Pony]

Fancy having a go at this, Piggurs - or indeed if anyone else has a view on it?

Marco.

Just got home after a 2 hour shift, so I'm too knackered to bother. But I'll have a go anyway.

I don't think the differences between Britain and the rest of Western Europe are that great as far as working hours and incomes go. You speak of the lifestyles of people living in Tuscany and other European rural areas, and their lifestyles probably don't differ greatly from rural areas over here. Certainly Farmer Sweatbag down the road from us doesn't spend much time driving round the country like a headless chicken.

The manic driving seen in towns and cities here will be no different to what you would find elsewhere in Europe. You may see less in France simply because they fit a similar size population into a country two and a quarter times the size.

I would readily believe the figures posted by Macca - what reason would the author have to lie? It looks like the French work on average about 4 hours a week less than UK, which is nice, but as this is an average, the people you see who appear to do jack shit for much of the day (apart from making love, eating cheese and saying paa-donn to each other) means that in the towns and cities they must be grafting 25 hours a day to make up for their rural cousins.

Also I've just read that in France you are 20% more likely to be murdered - I'm sure that figure could be reduced if they moved a bit quicker.

What I take from this is that your quality of life (or lack of) has little to do with the country you live in and more to do with where in that country you live.

[Marco]

Just got home after a 2 hour shift, so I'm too knackered to bother. But I'll have a go anyway.

I don't think the differences between Britain and the rest of Western Europe are that great as far as working hours and incomes go. You speak of the lifestyles of people living in Tuscany and other European rural areas, and their lifestyles probably don't differ greatly from rural areas over here. Certainly Farmer Sweatbag down the road from us doesn't spend much time driving round the country like a headless chicken.

The manic driving seen in towns and cities here will be no different to what you would find elsewhere in Europe. You may see less in France simply because they fit a similar size population into a country two and a quarter times the size.

I would readily believe the figures posted by Macca - what reason would the author have to lie? It looks like the French work on average about 4 hours a week less than UK, which is nice, but as this is an average, the people you see who appear to do jack shit for much of the day (apart from making love, eating cheese and saying paa-donn to each other) means that in the towns and cities they must be grafting 25 hours a day to make up for their rural cousins.

Also I've just read that in France you are 20% more likely to be murdered - I'm sure that figure could be reduced if they moved a bit quicker.

What I take from this is that your quality of life (or lack of) has little to do with the country you live in and more to do with where in that country you live.

I don't disagree with that, and suspect that your last sentence contains a lot of truth. However, it just goes to prove then why, if I had the choice, I'd *never* work or live in a big city!

You can see the change in the pace of life, and people's stress levels, when you venture from a quieter and/or more rural area, to a busier and/or more urban one... I even notice this when I go from Wrexham, to visit Macca in Stoke - the difference in traffic levels alone is quite marked, and Stoke isn't exactly huge!

Marco.

[NickB]

interesting that all the countries at bottom make great beer and enjoy drinking it, but in a fun way....bar the Germans; bastards

You been to Octoberfest?


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[Pigmy Pony]

You been to Octoberfest?


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No - when do they have that?

[NickB]

No - when do they have that?

September. Of course...!

[Pigmy Pony]

Of course it is, I'm such a silly bratwurst

[AJSki2fly]

interesting that all the countries at bottom make great beer and enjoy drinking it, but in a fun way....bar the Germans; bastards

Weil sie effizient sind

[Marco]

interesting that all the countries at bottom make great beer and enjoy drinking it, but in a fun way....bar the Germans; bastards

Lol - not sure what you mean? (Genuine) Germans, certainly those among my wife's family, represent some of the most fun-loving and nicest folk I know!

I love going out with them for a few beers in Cologne, especially here, drinking ice-cold Kölsch [the local beer]: https://www.frueh-am-dom.de/

Been there many times, and I can assure you, the folks there were having LOTS of fun, drinking some great beer!

Marco.

[struth]

Lol - not sure what you mean? (Genuine) Germans, certainly those among my wife's family, represent some of the most fun-loving and nicest folk I know!

I love going out with them for a few beers in Cologne, especially here, drinking ice-cold Kölsche [the local beer]: https://www.frueh-am-dom.de/

Been there many times, and I can assure you, the folks there were having LOTS of fun, drinking some great beer!

Marco.

lol... was just a wee jest...i think been to hamburg, although it was just before it got inundated by the east. tbh 95% of folk i spoke to were not really for it. yup, in their own country you couldn't find nicer folk.
buggers when they go "on tour" tho