"Ello John dya drive a motor"

[Macca]

Those palm trees don't look very safe.

[struth]

Those palm trees don't look very safe.

your first up against the wall


anyone else?

[Macca]

probably not. but it would be legal by law. a license, an mot, insurance and the power would be there, as it is for everyone else on the highway, to have the right to be on the road, taken away from you...

There's the argument that the bicycle is the one form of transport anyone can afford and use without being regulated heavily and I do have quite a lot of sympathy for that point of view even though you would not get me on a bicycle even at gunpoint.

[Pigmy Pony]

I reckon that a copper running along the space between a car and a cycle while trying to read his tape measure is never going to end well, and we already have a shortage of police.

The regulations listed by Macca could never be policed, at least not by the police. Luckily for our tightwad government, we will become police "snitches", thanks to the increasing use of dashcams. And we even have to pay for these cameras ourselves!

At some point in the future, these dash cams will be a compulsory fitment on all vehicles (no cam no insurance), and then, thanks to the wonders of tinternet, all the footage from all the journeys will be streamed to some massively powerful police computer which will automatically send out fixed penalty notices.


I can't wait for climate change to see us all selling our cars and buying boats - all that dash cam technology will have been for nought

[AJSki2fly]

probably not. but it would be legal by law. a license, an mot, insurance and the power would be there, as it is for everyone else on the highway, to have the privilege to be on the road, taken away from you...

So would you advocate a test for a horse on the road as well then, or perhaps a pedestrian test as well then.

[walpurgis]

Those palm trees don't look very safe.

Bet that water's wet too.

[walpurgis]

perhaps a pedestrian test as well then.

Not a bad idea, considering the amount of 'phone zombies' about.

[Macca]

The 'tour de france' types are annoying though and it is a good job I don't drive as the temptation to just nudge their back wheel and send them spinning off would be too great for me to resist.


I think a better solution would be to build cycling Neurburgrings in every town, where they can pay a fiver and spend the day cycling round and round. I'm sure the attraction would be the same (whatever that is, I've never understood it) and then they wouldn't be bothering anyone else. If you are just using the bike to get to the shops or to work that would be okay to carry on with as long as you cycle slowly, safely and on the pavement where possible.

I see people cycling down the dual carriageway causing all sorts of problems and taking their lives in their hands when right next to them is a ten foot wide pavement with no pedestrians for miles. What's that all about?

[Pigmy Pony]

So would you advocate a test for a horse on the road as well then, or perhaps a pedestrian test as well then.

Don't get me started on pedestrians!

The way I see it:

People who are able, ride a motorbike.
People who can't, drive a car.
People who can't even drive a car, we call them pedestrians.
People who are too impatient to walk, but too tight to pay for petrol, insurance, etc, these are your cyclists.

Of course there are exceptions, all of whom are AOS members.

[Stryder5]

The engine size limit is probably a good thing, but more important would be a power limit.

No domestic vehicle actually needs more than 100 bhp, in fact if being realistic, 75 bhp would be adequate. The 'boy racers' would of course be up-in-arms at such a suggestion. It will come anyway, sooner or later. In any case, the important thing is useful torque and flexibilty and electric vehicles will deliver this.l

Eventually, vehicles will be area speed limited. Probably controlled by something like GPS or localised ground stations of some sort. A blanket max limit of say 60 mph will hurt nobody, but would make travelling boring (or is that 'more boring'?)

I'm up in arms, most of the above is rubbish.

Why a power limit? What would it achieve. In a lot of occasions power will avoid an accident. Pulling out of junctions, overtaking etc, risk is proportional to exposure.

We need drivers to learn to drive not the stupid, inadequate current Driving Test.

Unfortunately all this is arbitrary, our society is broken. There is no courtesy no manners and a f*ck you attitude prevalent.

Gary