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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Reed View Post
    JIMBO mentions static with his 16.5 (or any wet-vac. machine?). There is no static; nor does it come back if the LP is stored in new poly-paper of Nagaoka-type inners. Something's wrong if you get static after a wet-vac.
    A wet vac machine primarily gets rid of dirt in the grooves and to some extent it does remove some static but if you have the vacuum type that I have when you use the vacuum to remove the excess liquid static can be introduced from the vacuum tube rubbing against the record. Their are soft strips on the tube to prevent the tube damaging the record surface but if you run it for too many revolutions to dry the record surface you will cause some static build up.
    This is why I would recommend a Zero stat gun to be used afterwards.

    I have been cleaning records a long time and this has been the best solution for removing static that I have found.
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    Must try some of that Nitty gritty solution Adrian as it seems to have worked well in combination with the other stuff?
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    I need to start zero-statting myself again at this time of year i become a static magnet. I use my stick against one of my amps to discharge it before i can touch anything that is earthed or i get a crack. you can see the spark off the stick
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    I need to start zero-statting myself again at this time of year i become a static magnet. I use my stick against one of my amps to discharge it before i can touch anything that is earthed or i get a crack. you can see the spark off the stick
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    I need to start zero-statting myself again at this time of year i become a static magnet. I use my stick against one of my amps to discharge it before i can touch anything that is earthed or i get a crack. you can see the spark off the stick
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    I screwed around like this for years. Audio Intelligent and even more so, Walker Audio (4 step), work marginally better than any of those you mention. However, changing to ultrasonic machine following Rushton method in Positive Feedback & Audiogon is world's apart more effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    What soak time did you allow ?
    The overall clean time for each record was around 10 minutes, 5 per side, I would say in phase 2 of the clean it was on for about 2 minutes which could be extended for a dirty or stubborn to clean record, but not allowing the liquid to evaporate and dry creating a further problem. If the record required longer soaking then I would result to bath method such as the Knosti leaving it soaking for a least 5 minutes and then rotating for the other half. I have done this in the past when needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    A wet vac machine primarily gets rid of dirt in the grooves and to some extent it does remove some static but if you have the vacuum type that I have when you use the vacuum to remove the excess liquid static can be introduced from the vacuum tube rubbing against the record. Their are soft strips on the tube to prevent the tube damaging the record surface but if you run it for too many revolutions to dry the record surface you will cause some static build up.
    This is why I would recommend a Zero stat gun to be used afterwards.

    I have been cleaning records a long time and this has been the best solution for removing static that I have found.
    I have the 16.5 and the recommended vac. rate is two revolutions max.. You achieve nothing by overrunning this except to reintroduce static (as you mention). Extra rev's don't dry the record; only evaporation does that. Depending on your fluid (alcohol or other) and ambient temperature, I'd say 1 to 3 min's per side before sleeving.

    On countless threads on pfm and in my and friends' experience, there's been no mention of static remaining after a wet-vac. clean but lots of claims that static is banished for very long periods thereafter, assuming good anti-static inner sleeving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Reed View Post
    I have the 16.5 and the recommended vac. rate is two revolutions max.. You achieve nothing by overrunning this except to reintroduce static (as you mention). Extra rev's don't dry the record; only evaporation does that. Depending on your fluid (alcohol or other) and ambient temperature, I'd say 1 to 3 min's per side before sleeving.

    On countless threads on pfm and in my and friends' experience, there's been no mention of static remaining after a wet-vac. clean but lots of claims that static is banished for very long periods thereafter, assuming good anti-static inner sleeving.
    Your absolutely right Mike. 2 revs is enough and more does increase static. I must stick to the rule!
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