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    Default Technics 1200GR torque setting - influence on sound?

    I'm admire new Technics Sl 1200 G and GR turntable. My question is, has anybody tried TORQUE settings (startup speed) and how it influences the sound quality? GR model has 3 torque settings H(default), Medium and Low. Does this torque settings H,M and L have influence on sound and how it sounds?

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    Yep, How does torque influence the sound ?

    Also does the new 1200GR have more torque than the previous 12XX's ?
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the 'torque' settings for SL-1200G and SL-1200GR relate only to startup and not to constant running.

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    I also thought it was about getting the speed up quickly for broadcast situations and club DJ use. Can't see what difference it makes once the deck is up to speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I also thought it was about getting the speed up quickly for broadcast situations and club DJ use. Can't see what difference it makes once the deck is up to speed.
    I've read on net, that lower setting on torque has slower start speed, but also low torque remains while playing LP's. And it sounds different, but I don't what influence it has on sound?
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    Try listening to the different settings without knowing which it is set on and see if you can still hear a difference.

    Maybe there is some sort of reason why it would sound different but I can't think of one. Mind you I'm not an engineer.
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    Greater motor torque gives greater resistance to stylus drag variation, it affects motor noise and depending on how its achieved affects the radiated magnetic field.

    How it sounds different is anyone's guess.
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    I've done some net search and find one quote about how 3 settings of torque on Technics 1200 GR influence the sound:
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    GR's torque adjustment mechanism has three positions, high, medium and low, and comes from the factory at the highest. Lowering it, I noticed less treble, more bass and a smoother presentation. The best way I can describe it is with a metaphor: the higher the torque, the more the music jumps from the speakers; the lower the torque, the more it flows. It's a great feature in my opinion that lets you adjust the turntable to how your system/room might sound and to your tastes. Fremer mentions this effect in the G's own torque adjustment in his review of but the reviews of the GR usually don't pay attention to it.
    Can any owner of Technics 1200GR confirm the quote?

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