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    I'm using older Rel. I upgraded to a stentor 3 from a stadium 2 fairly recently. I like the aesthetics of these older rel models with wood veneers. Just need to be wary of condition as rel no longer support the ST series so if the amp goes it would be a pain.

    I hear good things about BK subs which they sell factory to consumer so you get good. Vfm.

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    I really wanted to buy a BK sub but wasn't prepared to potentially waste more money if it didn't work out.

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    Good suggestions guys. REL are easy to find here. I think they are one of the only ones not using a class-D amp nowadays. Should be easier to service I would imagine.

    Not sure about BK - since they are direct-sell I doubt it would be worth shipping to Canada and paying customs...warranty service is a concern then too. Better to buy local in this case.

    There are plenty of subs in the used market here, so I am tempted to go that way so as to minimize outlay in case I don't like it. Like Shaun, I'm just ready to dip my toe into this, not take the full plunge yet.

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    I use a REL Quake with my Ruark Epilogues (Linn Kan size on Kan stands) in a smallish conservatory with suspended wood floor and it works very well indeed. Trick is to get the roll off right and then just enough gain to support the main speakers. All too easy to have the sub set too high. I adjust the gain with my ear up close to the sub until I can just hear it cut in and then add 1 click of gain. Works well for me. In contrast it was pants when I tried it with my EPOS M22i floor standers. Adding a pair of super tweeters however added just enough lift. Also means I can compensate for a bit of high tone hearing loss in my right ear.
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    I suppose it's luck of the draw but my BK sub arrived 7 years ago, and has been switched on permanently ever since, with no issues whatsoever. Worked great for home cinema, and now does a sterling job giving me an extra octave with Celestion 5's in second system. Didn't help when I tried in main system though, which already goes quite low in the bass.
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    Just tried the sub with some jazz, well when I say jazz it was actually 'Tourist' by Saint Germain and 'This Way' by Acoustic Alchemy. Not stuff for the purist by any means but certainly damn fine music in a jazz style. The Saint Germain album must be mainly sampled loops and real instruments similar to Quantic but more 'jazz' than Quantic. The sub, as I was told, really does help with the sound of this music in a very big way. I have also moved the sub to fire down the room now rather than across it and this has resulted in me having to reduce the volume of the sub. There is much more reinforcement this way around. Still loving it, still not bored

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haselsh1 View Post
    Just tried the sub with some jazz, well when I say jazz it was actually 'Tourist' by Saint Germain and 'This Way' by Acoustic Alchemy. Not stuff for the purist by any means but certainly damn fine music in a jazz style. The Saint Germain album must be mainly sampled loops and real instruments similar to Quantic but more 'jazz' than Quantic. The sub, as I was told, really does help with the sound of this music in a very big way. I have also moved the sub to fire down the room now rather than across it and this has resulted in me having to reduce the volume of the sub. There is much more reinforcement this way around. Still loving it, still not bored
    how have you got the sub connected shaun? interested as i might get one
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    how have you got the sub connected shaun? interested as i might get one
    Grant, I have taken the spare stereo phono outputs from the preamp and connected to left/right input on the sub. It must just tie the two together into a mono signal. Even though my sub is only 100 Watts or so there is plenty of low end reinforcement with the volume below half way. It really is quite effective. My last speakers before these were B&W CM8 S2's and these would definitely have benefited from this sub as their low end was not really that low. Before those I used KEF Q500's and they went much lower than the CM8's. Yet another case of live and learn. Another case of being dropped into a situation and coming out smiling.

  9. #89
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    Glad the sub is working out for you Shaun.

    Down firing is good if you have hard flooring , particularly if you are ground floor. You can get a better room response as long as you have good placement and a friendly room. Forward firing better if you have a suspended floor.

    Edit think i misread your comment there , sounds like its fowrad firing but you pointed it differently.

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    I have a BK XLS 200 down firing using high level inputs on my 2 ch and my AV amp excellent sub but does need careful setting up
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    SUB BK XLS 200

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