My rationale would be that if FLAC can't compete with high-end CDPs, online streaming would have even greater difficulty doing so...Originally Posted by struth
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My rationale would be that if FLAC can't compete with high-end CDPs, online streaming would have even greater difficulty doing so...
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+1
@Drew, try to audition a well set up streaming system.
But, imo, it is horses for courses - different strokes for different people.
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That's my problem, its hard to do so here in Italy, but I'll keep looking
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Flac can as it's basically the same. It's the playing back you have to get right. Not all playback systems are equal by a long stretch.
You might be surprised how good you can get it for comparatively little money. Plus with tidal unfolded even once it's very good with 40 mil tracks it's great for new music
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+1 Strongly disagree. The technology has come of age. Apart from the added convenience of accessing thousands of ripped cds I strongly believe that the ripped lossless files sound better than the original cds, especially if played back through upsampling software like Audivarna into a good DAC.
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Thanks Geoff, but is that in comparison to having used top-end CDPs? That is my quandary..
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Well fwiw relatively recently I had a Sugden Masterclass PDT4 CD player and loved the overall presentation and engaging nature of that top end player. But sold it and now concentrate my efforts on FLAC streaming.
But when I win the lottery I'd love to spend a few ten grand on a top end vinyl rig and vinyl for the sheer pleasure of handling the black circles.
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Do you find the quality of streaming FLAC reaches or surpasses your Sugden?
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Only got an oppo 103d but its a more than decent spinner if not hi end. My pc using audirvana out to an rpi is i have to say, my first call now, although bI do like spinning discs too... Vinyl is too labour intensive now for me but it has a sound all of its own and not to be compared imv
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“Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".
“You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”
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Different - both engaging, detailed, transparent, musical - just an uncoloured window to the music.
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