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    I use Tidal to source my music and play it through a MacBook / usb link to 2Qute / Naim Nait XS / Spendor bc1's. Over the last couple of weeks I have been using Audirvana to access Tidal and I have come to the conclusion that there is a definite improvement in the quality of what I'm hearing, particularly detail and clarity. I've checked my settings in Tidal and they are on hi-fi so why the difference?

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    Dunno but it sounds a fair bit better. I use this most of time.
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    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosley View Post
    I use Tidal to source my music and play it through a MacBook / usb link to 2Qute / Naim Nait XS / Spendor bc1's. Over the last couple of weeks I have been using Audirvana to access Tidal and I have come to the conclusion that there is a definite improvement in the quality of what I'm hearing, particularly detail and clarity. I've checked my settings in Tidal and they are on hi-fi so why the difference?
    AV doesn't just play back the digital files (local or online) but also processes them before sending them to a DAC. Yes, it sounds excellent but at present the Windows version is just too buggy!

    Geoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    AV doesn't just play back the digital files (local or online) but also processes them before sending them to a DAC. Yes, it sounds excellent but at present the Windows version is just too buggy!

    Geoff
    Mine seems to have settled down now. not had any issues for a while. i found what was causing the issues with the nwtworking, and it was the adaptor settings in windows. it has to be clear of other users before switching on av. then it works just fine. things like VPN's etc have to be disabled etc, at least temporarily
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    The mac version seems to be more stable, but crashed once when using search. I have avoided the updates though. Is there the same improvement with quobus?
    BTW another thing I have noticed is that good recordings (as in well produced with minimal dynamic limiting) stand out even more. eg War on Drugs Pain or Robert Francis - Mescaline just a couple that made me realise there something different.

    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Mine seems to have settled down now. not had any issues for a while. i found what was causing the issues with the nwtworking, and it was the adaptor settings in windows. it has to be clear of other users before switching on av. then it works just fine. things like VPN's etc have to be disabled etc, at least temporarily
    Last edited by Bosley; 14-10-2018 at 15:59. Reason: another thought bubble

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosley View Post
    The mac version seems to be more stable, but crashed once when using search. I have avoided the updates though. Is there the same improvement with quobus?
    BTW another thing I have noticed is that good recordings (as in well produced with minimal dynamic limiting) stand out even more. eg War on Drugs Pain or Robert Francis - Mescaline just a couple that made me realise there something different.
    I recently downloaded Audirvana to trial it on my MAC in anticipation of possibly using it with a Beresford SEG. Most of my music is ripped from CD's as wav or m4p files, or they are FLAC, I have some mpeg and aac, both so called lossless which they are not. So far I have found that there seems to be an improvement on replay through Audirvana compare to iTunes, I have compared the same tracks in different formats, using both. Bearing in mind that this is straight out the the headphone socket and then into my systems passive-pre amp then this is quite impressive. I would expect a significant improvement going out the usb and into the Beresford SEG to my system.
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    yup a big improvement using wasapi out of usb to a dac. upscaling is another improvement it can do from the dac screen
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJSki2fly View Post
    I recently downloaded Audirvana to trial it on my MAC in anticipation of possibly using it with a Beresford SEG. Most of my music is ripped from CD's as wav or m4p files, or they are FLAC, I have some mpeg and aac, both so called lossless which they are not. So far I have found that there seems to be an improvement on replay through Audirvana compare to iTunes, I have compared the same tracks in different formats, using both. Bearing in mind that this is straight out the the headphone socket and then into my systems passive-pre amp then this is quite impressive. I would expect a significant improvement going out the usb and into the Beresford SEG to my system.
    I used AV with an Rpi/Digione and Caiman SEG. I set up AV to upsample to DSD. It takes a fair bit of processing power, but my system was able to reliably upstream to DSD128. The SQ on both local flac files and on Tidal streams was outstanding (with Tidal MQ files being especially impressive).

    My trial of AV hs now ended but I intend to purchase it once some of the bugs have been sorted in the Windows version and once the Android app in up and running.

    Geoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    I used AV with an Rpi/Digione and Caiman SEG. I set up AV to upsample to DSD. It takes a fair bit of processing power, but my system was able to reliably upstream to DSD128. The SQ on both local flac files and on Tidal streams was outstanding (with Tidal MQ files being especially impressive).

    My trial of AV hs now ended but I intend to purchase it once some of the bugs have been sorted in the Windows version and once the Android app in up and running.

    Geoff
    Still using mine upscaled to 32/192 to my older rpi 2b. Still it sounds great
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Ive been using Audirvana for a good few years now with my MacMini. I’ve been streaming with Tidal for about a year. The integration of Tidal has worked very well for me, I doubt I will be changing from Audirvana any time soon.
    What it does, & how it does it, I have no idea. I’ve tried others such as Pure Music & Amarra, but Audirvana worked best for me.

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