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    Default Denon DL-S1 MC cartridge

    It's arrived!!! A day late due to Royal Mail technical issues (M6 crash causing huge delays)

    More to follow

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    Looks well suited mate, how are you liking it so far?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie123 View Post
    Looks well suited mate, how are you liking it so far?
    I expected it to be a bit livelier than the Kontrapunkt b, but it's not coming across that way. It's kind of the same although the there is an openness which is a little eye opening. It's definitely a top level cartridge but I need to fine tune the setup. Im hoping to get a bit more authority and weight in the sound so checking the setup and just noticed the tail is a little down. Everything else is pretty much as close as can be gotten.



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    Glad you've got it up and running! Bit busy just now, but....*Before* arriving at any conclusions, put it in the MG-10 headshell I've provided, as I'm not a big fan of the ones with the rubber strips (which I see you've removed, lol).

    Trust me, that will make a difference! Not sure whether you'll prefer it or not, but it *will* be different.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Glad you've got it up and running! Bit busy just now, but....*Before* arriving at any conclusions, put it in the MG-10 headshell I've provided, as I'm not a big fan of the ones with the rubber strips (which I see you've removed, lol).

    Trust me, that will make a difference! Not sure whether you'll prefer it or not, but it *will* be different.

    Marco.
    I tried that one first. I felt it was lacking bottom end, put this one on and the bottom end returned. Whether it's supposed to be there or not Is a completely different matter

    Setup was perfect in that on too, just refined this ones setuo and it's singing nicely. I've got a third head shell to try too.

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    No worries, mate. Whatever works, works. Also, don't be afraid to track it right up to 1.5g, if you feel that the sound needs a little more 'solidity'. Plus, give it plenty of use because in reality the cartridge is probably hardly run in, as I was mostly using my 103s and SPU at the time, so it's virtually new!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Yep, track at the heavier end if you feel it’s a bit bass light.
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    It's not a bass monster IMO. It delivers high resolution in a natural, unforced manner.
    Main system: Sony TTS8000; AT1010; Audio Technica Art1; The Lentek; Cambridge 851n, Yamaha NS1000.
    System 2 - SBT; Technics SH-X1000 DAC; Denon PMA-850

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldius View Post
    It's not a bass monster IMO. It delivers high resolution in a natural, unforced manner.
    No it's definitely not a Bass monster. It does have bass though, just not the quantity I'm used to. Doesn't make it a bad cartridge!!

    Lots here to rave about. I will too when I have had a lot of listening to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldius View Post
    It's not a bass monster IMO. It delivers high resolution in a natural, unforced manner.
    Spot on, Geoff. It's the cultured and more refined cousin of the DL-103, which *is* a bass monster. Both Denons have their respective strengths, and which one you enjoy most will largely depend on the music and/or recordings you listen to.

    Plus, if you use the DL-S1 on the right turntable/arm, both of which intrinsically have no shortage of bass, and through a phono stage with a goodly dose of 'grunt', you're unlikely to find it lacking in the lower registers.

    In comparison with most Ortofon MCs, which tend to superimpose their bass onto every recording, whether it should be there or not (a bit like some speakers do, which are purported as having good bass, but simply exaggerate it), the DL-S1 could be perceived as bass-light. It isn't; it's just more accurate and natural/unforced in its delivery of low frequencies.

    It's fundamentally a very 'honest' sounding cartridge, and one for purists who appreciate some of its remarkable talents.

    It tracks like a demon and cruises over 'difficult' material that some rather more expensive cartridges struggle with, and has one of the most lucid/liquid sounding midranges out with of a Decca, with similar levels of dynamic 'attack'. Plus, one of the most open and sweet sounding top-ends I've ever heard from a cartridge, married to an uncanny ability to unearth previously unheard information in familiar recordings, which can at times be rather unnerving....

    At least that's how it sounded in my system, so I hope that Ollie's getting a nice slab of that, too!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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