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    Bigman80 Guest

    Default Denon DL-S1 MC cartridge

    It's arrived!!! A day late due to Royal Mail technical issues (M6 crash causing huge delays)

    More to follow

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    Looks well suited mate, how are you liking it so far?
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    Bigman80 Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie123 View Post
    Looks well suited mate, how are you liking it so far?
    I expected it to be a bit livelier than the Kontrapunkt b, but it's not coming across that way. It's kind of the same although the there is an openness which is a little eye opening. It's definitely a top level cartridge but I need to fine tune the setup. Im hoping to get a bit more authority and weight in the sound so checking the setup and just noticed the tail is a little down. Everything else is pretty much as close as can be gotten.



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    Glad you've got it up and running! Bit busy just now, but....*Before* arriving at any conclusions, put it in the MG-10 headshell I've provided, as I'm not a big fan of the ones with the rubber strips (which I see you've removed, lol).

    Trust me, that will make a difference! Not sure whether you'll prefer it or not, but it *will* be different.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Glad you've got it up and running! Bit busy just now, but....*Before* arriving at any conclusions, put it in the MG-10 headshell I've provided, as I'm not a big fan of the ones with the rubber strips (which I see you've removed, lol).

    Trust me, that will make a difference! Not sure whether you'll prefer it or not, but it *will* be different.

    Marco.
    I tried that one first. I felt it was lacking bottom end, put this one on and the bottom end returned. Whether it's supposed to be there or not Is a completely different matter

    Setup was perfect in that on too, just refined this ones setuo and it's singing nicely. I've got a third head shell to try too.

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    No worries, mate. Whatever works, works. Also, don't be afraid to track it right up to 1.5g, if you feel that the sound needs a little more 'solidity'. Plus, give it plenty of use because in reality the cartridge is probably hardly run in, as I was mostly using my 103s and SPU at the time, so it's virtually new!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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    Yep, track at the heavier end if you feel it’s a bit bass light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    No worries, mate. Whatever works, works. Also, don't be afraid to track it right up to 1.5g, if you feel that the sound needs a little more 'solidity'. Plus, give it plenty of use because in reality it probably hardly run in, as I was mostly using my 103s and SPU at the time, so it's virtually new!

    Marco.
    I'll give the headshell another run out mate. I just know what to expect from the one I have. When I'm familiar with the cartridge I'll plum your headshell back in and see what happens

    Tracking at 1.5g now and it's better balanced. Top end was a little high in the mix just. More natural now.

    What I am noticing is how the sound is projecting into the room. It's also doing this this strange thing where I think I'm hearing things from the other room or from outside. I'm not, it's the track and nuances that are being collected in the track. It's a strange sensation.

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    Yesh, it's called resolution!

    That's what the DL-S1 positively excels at: digging deep into recordings and unearthing/teasing out a wealth of detail that's in those grooves (familiar ones) you probably haven't heard before, and enveloping the subsequent musical delivery in a cavernously wide soundstage

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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    Bigman80 Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yesh, it's called resolution!

    That's what the DL-S1 positively excels at: digging deep into recordings and unearthing/teasing out a wealth of detail that's in those grooves (familiar ones) you probably haven't heard before, and enveloping the subsequent musical delivery in a cavernously wide soundstage

    Marco.
    It is cavernously wide. What I'm not getting yet is the depth. It's either unavailable or the cartridge is a more forward than the Ortofon in presentation.

    The Setup is now as good as I can get it, which is spot on! Only thing to tweak is VTA. Currently it's perfect so I'm reluctant to mess too much plus it sounds very very good.

    I'll give this a run for a couple of days and then put the Kb back in and see what's happening.

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