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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Amp and speakers first! You need a pre-power combo, that's where I'd start.
    And don't forget some top quality stands for those Gales - get the best you can afford.
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    And don't forget some top quality stands for those Gales - get the best you can afford.
    Got some Atacama nexus 6i which are really too big for the tiny Gales, but they do sound better on them.

    Now, can someone please advise if ‘better’ speaker cables are going to make any difference in a cheap as chips system please?
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    Yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonuffin View Post
    Yes
    I must admit I was hoping for a recommendation...

    I see you have a Lyngdorf amp, makes me wish I still had mine!
    Paired it with a Classe pre and they sounded sublime!
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    maybe'ss aye, maybe's naw... alas its a suck it and see situation.. no doubt some will but there is no hard and fast rules bar the obvious ones. Ive tried lots of cables and found most of them different to some extent but not necessarily better.

    might add my homemade ones are best ive used..
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    Before I sold up my system I was using Talk Cable 3.1, and that was in a set up costing many times more, having gone up and down the price scale, so yes, agree on your thoughts, as to my ears they sounded as good as some prototype Chord Siggy cables that I acquired with a supposed RRP of £300 a metre, so I was told.
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    Can you still get QED 79 strand? That was always recommended in the 80's, and probably quite cheap. If better cables are an itch you need to scratch, just go for it - unlikely to make things worse.
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

    T/T: Inspire Monarch, X200 tonearm, Ortofon Quintet Blue. Phono: Project Tube Box CD: Marantz CD6006 (UK Edition); Amp: Musical Fidelity A5 Integrated.
    Speakers: Zu Omen Def, REL T9i subwoofer. Cables: Atlas Equator interconnects, Atlas Hyper 3.0 speaker cables

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    Echo Dot, Amptastic Mini One,Arcam A75 integrated, Celestion 5's, BK XLS-200 DF

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    LG 55" OLED, Panasonic Blu Ray, Sony a/v amp, MA Radius speakers, REL Storm sub

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    got a lovely little system within walking distance of yourself which i really love , an 89 pound teac receiver/amp , revolver speakers at 150 quid and some heavy duty but cheap copper wire . i love it . always reminds me of what you can do with very little
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    Quote Originally Posted by icehockeyboy View Post
    I must admit I was hoping for a recommendation...

    I see you have a Lyngdorf amp, makes me wish I still had mine!
    Paired it with a Classe pre and they sounded sublime!
    The Lyngdorf power amp is something I wish I had bought years ago. Even with a Rotel pre it sounds fabulous.

    I gave a "yes" answer because even the cheapest system has no relevance at all to the quality of the cabling, because it is the wire itself that is the question. A cheap cable has flaws and is imperfect which ultimately affects and limits the sound, whereas a good/high quality cable has less flaws and will affect the sound less. The real question that people ask themselves is "how much am I prepared to pay for a quality cable for a budget system?" and without fail they always pay less than they should do and blame the system if the resulting sound does not please.
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    I put together a fairly decent sounding system for the princely sum of £30.
    An Acoustic Solutions amp, free to collector on Gumtree, a pair of Celestion F1s £30 on Ebay, a 3.5mm to RCA lead and some old speaker cable I had already, just plugged a phone in via headphone socket & it sounded pretty good considering.
    Gave it to a young colleague when he moved into his own place & he was amazed at the sound having previously listened to music on a wireless speaker

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