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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    The best support I ever had for my TT was a self made open frame table. It was made of a combination of hard and softwood timber. The uprights were 2"x2" hardwood. The rest of the support was basically cross bracing using 1"x1" pine (screwed and glued). The uprights had spikes inserted top and bottom. It was completed with a plywood top with four two pence coins glued to the underside. A hole punch was used to create an indent into the centre of the coins which ensured that top did not slide around. The support was incredibly rigid and very light. It worked well with my RP3 (which I bought when the RB300 arm first came out), and then with my LP12 which I bought by trading in the RP3. The most notable benefit of the support was the incredible energy in the midrange, holographic imaging, improved timing, tighter bass, and the opening of fine detail.

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    Sounds like a well thought out and designed support.
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    Join Date: Oct 2017

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    Adrian - thanks for the insight re. solid state amps. I can get those sorbothane domes for a reasonable price here locally, and will give it a try.

    FYI, I did put some dense foam pucks under my CD player and it was a noticeable improvement. I might try sorbothane there next and see if that makes it even better.

    Geoff - good post. Sounds like a solid design. Well done! I will keep that in mind as I look to set up a second system in the basement. I have a Planar 3 already standing by for that. A solid, rigid support is exactly what I will be needing there. Thanks!

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    Your actually coupling your hifi components and not isolating them utilising the method you describe.
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    Interesting bit about your DIY record cleaning there Aidrian
    I have the Knosti stuff ,but it really pisses me off doing all that faffing with 2 baths and trying to keep my labels dry . The dam solution creeps into the label a bit (despite me trying to mod the seals ) and even after they drain ,as you say , seem to get that bit of a trail of stuff , despite me rinsing time and again .
    I have a really old early electric turntable that is scrap , so I might try your method
    I only ride 'em, I don't know what makes 'em work

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    I discovered how isolation affects SS amps quite by accident; a mate went to Korea on business and brought me back a set of Sound Spike Will maglev feet. I immediately tried to use them between my Mana and the TT. A very hairy experience trying to get them into position with just one pair of hands so I desisted and anyway I realised my lp12 was too light to correctly depress the central piston thingy so that the opposed magnetic fields might work correctly and “float” the deck. So I decided to just put them under my Sugden A21SE, just 3 of them in a sort of triangle under where the toroidal is, left of centre. I didn’t expect any kind of result but after a couple of days I realised how much better it all sounded. They are still in position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I discovered how isolation affects SS amps quite by accident; a mate went to Korea on business and brought me back a set of Sound Spike Will maglev feet. I immediately tried to use them between my Mana and the TT. A very hairy experience trying to get them into position with just one pair of hands so I desisted and anyway I realised my lp12 was too light to correctly depress the central piston thingy so that the opposed magnetic fields might work correctly and “float” the deck. So I decided to just put them under my Sugden A21SE, just 3 of them in a sort of triangle under where the toroidal is, left of centre. I didn’t expect any kind of result but after a couple of days I realised how much better it all sounded. They are still in position.
    I used mag levs under my thorens deck. worked well. as you say you have to get right ones for the weight of unit tho.
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    Hmm. Wonder if a maglev armchair would be any good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Hmm. Wonder if a maglev armchair would be any good?
    Could fit them to the zimmer
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    must admit when i saw grants maglev set up i was smitten.....proper gadget porn!!!!!

  10. #20
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    Decoupling has way more impact, and is cheaper, than cables, yet few people seem to pay attention to it. Glad that more people are moving away from spikes, decoupling at a component level, and seeing what they are missing. And for £20.

    To the OP, try decoupling your speakers next.
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