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    Price of carts bit bonkers really, my amp was £250, phono amp £300, ok used, but unlike carts they don't really wear out! And now I have to cough up £200 - £400 for a 'budget' cart!!
    Current system 1210 GR. CDP - Meridian G08. Amp -Sugden A21I - Sig. Wharfedale Lintons.

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    The Nag MP 200 arrived today, currently running it in. Hope I set it up right.... Tracking force 1.8, aligned with Nottingham analogue alignment gauge, weight checked by electronic scales. So far I'm liking it, hopefully will get better over next week.

    IMG_20181107_203752144 by Mike Van, on Flickr
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    Current system 1210 GR. CDP - Meridian G08. Amp -Sugden A21I - Sig. Wharfedale Lintons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hifi_dave View Post
    Unfortunately, Beefheart never sounds great on any system. You can't base your choice on his recordings.

    IMO, the 2M range is on the thin side of neutral and become more analytical as you go up the range. I prefer carts with a bit more body like a high output Hana or if you have a MC input, the Rega Ania or one of the great value Audio Technicas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeandvan View Post
    Price of carts bit bonkers really, my amp was £250, phono amp £300, ok used, but unlike carts they don't really wear out! And now I have to cough up £200 - £400 for a 'budget' cart!!
    A budget cartridge it isn't

    I would say £50-150 is budget but not the very cheapest

    New Audio Technica VM95 perhaps
    Shure M97 perhaps

    Oh - and that color on Nag is really horrible, hope it performs better than looks

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDS View Post
    A budget cartridge it isn't

    I would say £50-150 is budget but not the very cheapest

    New Audio Technica VM95 perhaps
    Shure M97 perhaps

    Oh - and that color on Nag is really horrible, hope it performs better than looks
    Depends what your budget is I guess, lols!!! I mean some guys out there are spending 5K on a cart that's gonna be thrown away after 1000 hours, bonkers!! But may'be 5K is just a days work to them? Yeh, the MP 200 looks like a cheapo cart. Its early days, but so far its sounding good, mellow and detailed at the same time, so far anyway.
    Current system 1210 GR. CDP - Meridian G08. Amp -Sugden A21I - Sig. Wharfedale Lintons.

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    This is the most detail I've ever heard from a cart, at £260 from Japan (I wasn't hit with customs, is this an arbitrary thing?), it seems a bargain. I cannot imagine what really posh carts can do for music! So far after about 10 hours play its sounding pretty damn good, I left my TT running last night with the needle on, so that must have put another 10 hours on it! It also seems to have the sweetness and mellowness I sought, as well as doing impressive things with rhythm. Replacement stylus' are only a £100 as well! Thank you to anyone who recommended Nag carts. Ugly as hell though! I'm still not sure though it passed the kinks or Beefhart test...…….What is the best cart for scratchy 60s rock? Shure?
    Last edited by Mikeandvan; 09-11-2018 at 22:45.
    Current system 1210 GR. CDP - Meridian G08. Amp -Sugden A21I - Sig. Wharfedale Lintons.

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    5 days on, and with around 3 hours per day use, plus some overnight left turntable on use, the nag is sounding great, Beefheart is finally listenable, gonna get a few replacement stylus's before they stop being sold at the crazy price of £100!! From Japan of course, forget rip off Britain!!
    Current system 1210 GR. CDP - Meridian G08. Amp -Sugden A21I - Sig. Wharfedale Lintons.

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