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    There is a Lockheed F-94 Starfire at the museum at Elvington near to York that I would so love to get a fine portrait of but every time I go it is in yet another shit location. One day maybe the whole situation will be spot on. I live in hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haselsh1 View Post
    Yes indeed. I remember seeing an early F15 in blue and orange at an airshow at RAF Binbrook during 1977. At that time it just took my breath away and was the only thing I had seen that could perform like a Lightning. These days we see them constantly at RAF Donna Nook about ten miles down the road.
    I'm not sure its rate of climb (to intercept those nuclear bombers in time) was comparable but I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence001 View Post
    I'm not sure its rate of climb (to intercept those nuclear bombers in time) was comparable but I could be wrong.

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    I only know that the initial rate of climb of an F6 was around 53,000 feet per minute making it easy to be at altitude and ready for combat but with only six minutes worth of fuel on board I always wondered how effective it would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haselsh1 View Post
    I only know that the initial rate of climb of an F6 was around 53,000 feet per minute making it easy to be at altitude and ready for combat but with only six minutes worth of fuel on board I always wondered how effective it would be.
    I thought we were taking about the F15, what you're describing sounds more like an ME163!

    Edit: oh you mean the Lightning F6 variant, I thought you meant a US plane F6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haselsh1 View Post
    I only know that the initial rate of climb of an F6 was around 53,000 feet per minute making it easy to be at altitude and ready for combat but with only six minutes worth of fuel on board I always wondered how effective it would be.
    After 6 minutes you'd probably have used up all your missiles and ammo anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence001 View Post
    I thought we were taking about the F15, what you're describing sounds more like an ME163!

    Edit: oh you mean the Lightning F6 variant, I thought you meant a US plane F6.

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    I've been reading the autobiography of the top RN test pilot of WWII and after, Capt. Eric Brown, he was assigned to testing captured German types after the war. He said the Komet was exhilarating to fly, as you would expect! Only captured German ground crew knew how to get it going, so they took special measures to protect themselves against Nazi sympathisers as there was evidence of sabotage attempts on previous flights. I think he was also called upon to interview Von Braun and the Horten brothers for the British.

    Well worth a read, it's called Wings on my Sleeve. Lots about the development of carrier ops with early jets. Much experience was shared with the US, along with our technology.

    Speaking of dangerous German rocket planes, I wonder what he would have made of the Bachem Natter if he'd ever got the chance to test it. I suspect he would have thought twice before climbing in the cockpit!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    After 6 minutes you'd probably have used up all your missiles and ammo anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence001 View Post
    I've been reading the autobiography of the top RN test pilot of WWII and after, Capt. Eric Brown, he was assigned to testing captured German types after the war. He said the Komet was exhilarating to fly, as you would expect! Only captured German ground crew knew how to get it going, so they took special measures to protect themselves against Nazi sympathisers as there was evidence of sabotage attempts on previous flights. I think he was also called upon to interview Von Braun and the Horten brothers for the British.

    Well worth a read, it's called Wings on my Sleeve. Lots about the development of carrier ops with early jets. Much experience was shared with the US, along with our technology.

    Speaking of dangerous German rocket planes, I wonder what he would have made of the Bachem Natter if he'd ever got the chance to test it. I suspect he would have thought twice before climbing in the cockpit!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    After 6 minutes you'd probably have used up all your missiles and ammo anyway.
    Actually that's an interesting point about interception tactics. Assuming the bombers flew solo missions one (plus maybe a back up flying a slightly different route), with 6 mins of fuel once at the target, the Lighting can only intercept a single bomber so two missiles are probably enough, if one fails you have a back up.

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