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    Awesome pics

    I have a Mustang type wheel in my shed
    I only ride 'em, I don't know what makes 'em work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence001 View Post
    Helped win the war by escorting the US bombers all the way over Germany in their daylight raids with enough fuel to dogfight. It's reputed that when Goering saw them over Berlin he said the war was lost.
    And the Tuskegee Airmen, flying Mustangs shot down the first ME262s

    'The Tuskegee Airmen shot down three German jets in a single day.[42] On 24 March 1945, 43 P-51 Mustangs led by Colonel Benjamin O. Davis escorted B-17 bombers over 1,600 miles (2,600 km) into Germany and back. The bombers' target, a massive Daimler-Benz tank factory in Berlin, was heavily defended by Luftwaffe aircraft, including propeller-driven Fw 190s, Me 163 "Komet" rocket-powered fighters, and 25 of the much more formidable Me 262s, history's first operational jet fighter. Pilots Charles Brantley, Earl Lane and Roscoe Brown all shot down German jets over Berlin that day. For the mission, the 332nd Fighter Group earned a Distinguished Unit Citation.[37]'

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Airmen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haselsh1 View Post
    A couple more classic aircraft images taken back in the dark days of film.

    North American P51D by Shaun Haselden, on Flickr


    Vought F4U Corsair by Shaun Haselden, on Flickr


    Curtiss Kittyhawk by Shaun Haselden, on Flickr
    Beautiful photos as always.
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    Those English Electric Lightnings were awesome.. Regarding the Shackleton, i didnt think their were any of them left..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral Morn View Post
    And the Tuskegee Airmen, flying Mustangs shot down the first ME262s
    Neil, I'm a bit confused as to the meaning of this claim. Do you mean that the 332 Fighter Group shot down the first 262s of the day on Saturday 24th of March 1945, or do you mean 332 had the first combat kill of an ME262 during WW2?

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    The first me262 downed was forced to crashland, in fact the first 2 were by a p47.. first one shot down was by spitfires if i remember right..
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    Here you are boys !!

    http://donaldnijboer.com/who-shot-do...2-jet-fighter/

    IIRC the 262 was vulnerable when coming in towards landing , (as were most aircraft to be fair) as throttled back made them less of a speeding target , and a diving P47 or P51 / Spitfire , took a better advantage !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oddball View Post
    Here you are boys !!

    http://donaldnijboer.com/who-shot-do...2-jet-fighter/

    IIRC the 262 was vulnerable when coming in towards landing , (as were most aircraft to be fair) as throttled back made them less of a speeding target , and a diving P47 or P51 / Spitfire , took a better advantage !!
    That's right it's possible they were shot down in combat but if they were downed when coming into land I wouldn't go shouting about it as a great achievement, is rather unchivalric really. Although the US pilots may not have had the classic esprit de corps/cavalry attitude of the European forces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence001 View Post
    That's right it's possible they were shot down in combat but if they were downed when coming into land I wouldn't go shouting about it as a great achievement, is rather unchivalric really. Although the US pilots may not have had the classic esprit de corps/cavalry attitude of the European forces.
    There may have been chivalric actions carried out by individual pilots, but in the main the air war was ruthless, and was so right from the start. Sorties on enemy airfields timed to meet returning bomber streams were standard practice for both the Luftwaffe and the RAF during WW2. These were known as intruder missons by the RAF, who typically deployed Mosquitos and Beaufighters to engage German bombers they came into land after night sorties. The Luftwaffe used intruder raiding againt the RAF and the USAAF right up until the end of the war: while the RAF intruders, having practically no German bombers deal with anymore, intruded the intruders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landloper View Post


    Neil, I'm a bit confused as to the meaning of this claim. Do you mean that the 332 Fighter Group shot down the first 262s of the day on Saturday 24th of March 1945, or do you mean 332 had the first combat kill of an ME262 during WW2?
    Its a wki article, not my writing. It was my understanding that the red tails were the first to shoot down me262s in combat. There is more info if you read the article at the end of the link.
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