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    Exactly

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    A simplified 1202 I think. Lovely decks. Most b and o stuff is.
    The fully auto feature is really useful for folk like me who have difficulties now.
    I always was going to get a banger but it never happened..

    Maybe one day. If for nothing else, the style. A friend used to have a full set when I was an apprentice to him.. Git lol
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

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    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    Tis Grant a simpler version.. This is the deck that was featured on the Pink Floyd "Money" official Video

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    Our own beo man will likely have 10 of them stashed . Took me a day to fit a cart to a head shell.. Poor fingers and eyesight. Can't stand and trying to do it in a seat isn't easy.
    Why I'm going digital tbh. I get music at touch of a mouse or phone screen.
    Not so tactile of course but needs must and it sounds very good. Especially with my new speakers
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    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Took me a day to fit a cart to a head shell..
    I'm 36 and have no complaints about my manual dexterity, recently I was asked to fit a cartridge and it took me 3 bloody hours because the included round nuts were just supremely annoying and the mounting hardware I usually use was not compatible (the heads of the screws were too large and failed to clear the cartridge body). That's why I love cartridges with threaded bodies and headshells with threaded holes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shovel_Knight View Post
    I love cartridges with threaded bodies and headshells with threaded holes!
    But the former will not work with the latter.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    But the former will not work with the latter.
    Yes. Threaded headshells are useful for cartridges with no threaded holes, like Denons for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shovel_Knight View Post
    That's why I love cartridges with threaded bodies and headshells with threaded holes!
    I have never really understood how a head shell with threaded holes is good, does it not restrict getting the stylus in the exact position, or is the head shell designed for specific cartridges and arm use only? Or I suppose moving the arm to get position correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Our own beo man will likely have 10 of them stashed . Took me a day to fit a cart to a head shell.. Poor fingers and eyesight. Can't stand and trying to do it in a seat isn't easy.
    Why I'm going digital tbh. I get music at touch of a mouse or phone screen.
    Not so tactile of course but needs must and it sounds very good. Especially with my new speakers
    Youll be ok with that B&O then you just slip the cartridge on & thats that, no wires, no lining up with protractors etc.. Theses statically balanced arms track like mad, Te arms are designed for perfect wall to wall tarcking.. I once saw a video of someone playing an LP with a B&O TT sat on its side..
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Our own beo man will likely have 10 of them stashed .
    No - no 1202s or 1203s at the moment, Just a Beogram 2000 (the 1980s type), a Beogram 3000 (Acoustical motor unit), Beogram 4002, Beogram 5000 and a Beogram 8002.



    As an aside, the above Beogram 2000 is my favourite. Looks great, takes the later MMCx series cartridges and doesn't need any adjustment for standard speed or size - just hit Play and off it goes!
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