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  1. #1
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    Need a short but good quality HDMI for i2s duties between the Oppo and my Dac.
    Took a punt on one of these from Amazon for 15 quid.
    Using the one that came with the Oppo but its 6 foot long and not ideal for i2s, this ones 50cm and "Triple shielded" (apparently)
    18GBS 4K Premium certified and all good stuff, so see how it turns out.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Thinking to DIY one as well, chuck in a bunch of silver wire in Teflon as short as possible, see what happens.
    Could be a good wee cable project but will try this one too.

    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

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    If you're needing good quality HDMI cables of any length in the future drop me a line and i'll get you the Kramer cables we use at work, they are bloody good and i use them on my whole AV setup


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    Thanks Mike,

    Looking for a cable 0.3 or 0.5m in length?
    Trying to keep 'em as short as possible for i2s.

    Found another interesting cable, American forums rate them highly and have been compared to Wireworlds, a bit different from the norm too...silver plated OFC and connectors look good.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Apollo-AV-Lightning-v2-2-0M-HDMI-5-Silver-plated-OFC-v1-4-High-Speed-w-Ethernet-/360866831225
    Coming from the US, so will take a while.

    Less than 20 quid for a punt, see how it compares to the Amazon one above.
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

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    As the late Colonel Sanders once said
    "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken!!"

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    Look solid well specced cables, theres a 3 foot length I think?
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

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    Ordered a Bluejeans one too for comparison, a different construction method from the norm and gets highly recommended over on PS Audio forums for i2s hookup.

    And very cheap!
    https://www.bluejeanscable.com/store...hdmi-cable.htm

    Run with these 3 as well as my current Oppo supplied 6 footer for a while see which one sounds best, assuming theres much difference.
    This “best of the rest” will be compared to a Wireworld Platinum Starlight 7 (on sale or return from a Dealer), I’ll make a call and call it done.
    If the hypes worth it in my system (not cheap for 30cm of wire) it’ll be a case of fit ‘n forget, money well spent.

    But not neccessarily!
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

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    I wonder if it’s worth having a custom cable made with cable having just the required number of conductors for I2S rather than a HDMI signal?

    Might be possible to optimise the cable better.
    ~Paul~

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    What happened to the Monoprice ones, Gaz? For me, they're superb, and that's what I'd use now as a matter of course in all my HDMI applications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    What happened to the Monoprice ones, Gaz? For me, they're superb, and that's what I'd use now as a matter of course in all my HDMI applications.

    Marco.
    You're using HDMI leads for their intended purpose.
    In this instance the HDMI connector is being used in a non standard application.
    Chris



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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    What happened to the Monoprice ones, Gaz? For me, they're superb, and that's what I'd use now as a matter of course in all my HDMI applications.

    Marco.
    The Monoprice ones are great for video Marco, still use them and stand by them.
    They don't work for audio i2s though, very possibly down to the Redmere chip at one end.
    Tried them hoping maybe that would actually better a plain cable but nope, didn't even pass signal.

    Interesting thing came up, the Audio AV flat ones I linked to above that were being compared to the Wireworld...someone was interested enough to cut one open and compare.
    this cables suddenly got a lot more interesting...



    Individually shielded signal connections, silver plated copper, and the power lines are well seperated from the signal runs.
    Just as wireworld do with theirs.
    Was going to DIY a cable, but if you can get designs like this and the Bluejeans that pay attention to cable geometry in this way, why bother.

    Be choosing with my ears of course, but at these prices you can try out a few different designs.
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

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