View Poll Results: Should we keep separate tradersí rooms, or go back to a single trade sub-forum?

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  • Keep things as they are, with separate tradersí rooms

    14 60.87%
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Thread: Should we lose the Sub-Forums in Trade Impressions?

  1. #1
    Join Date: Jan 2009

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    I'm Hugo.

    Default Should we lose the Sub-Forums in Trade Impressions?

    Iíve chatted to Marco about the possibility of losing the individual sub-forums (Tradersí Rooms) in the trade section, and he asked me to post a thread to canvass thoughts from both trade and regular forum users.

    It seemed a really good idea for traders to have individual rooms where they can post freely and where regular visistors can go to clearly defined areas. But, what seems to have occurred is a bit of an Ďarms raceí where traders jostle to keep their latest post visible on the main front page of the forum. Anything else is largely invisible to casual visitors. Having initially embraced the idea of separate trade rooms, I think that the time has come to lose the trade rooms and have a single Trade sub-forum, where all the recent posts can be clearly seen at a glance, hopefully to the benefit of all users and visitors. This is what we used to have at AoS and what PFM still operate.

    So, please cast a vote and post your thoughts below.

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    Join Date: Jan 2008

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    Yes, could I please have some feedback on this, as if the majority would like to return to the old system, that's what we'll do

    One point I'd make, however, is that it's not necessarily the case that any posts/sales ads that aren't in immediate view, on the main forum page, are "invisible", as I know for a fact that people also click on 'Trade Impressions', on the main page, and from there flick through the individual trade rooms, and of course view the latest posts that way.

    Not everyone is so lazy that they only look at that last post showing on the main page!

    Plus.... If anyone would like a sticky thread [acting as an on-going 'blog'] to appear at the top of this section of the forum (beside where this thread is now), such as Steve has, from Magna Audio, see here: https://theartofsound.net/forum/show...roduct-Updates as well as a dedicated room, to advertise your company's products, then you need only ask.

    That way, whatever you advertise will continually remain at the top!

    Marco.
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    Join Date: Feb 2010

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    Inclined to agree with Hugo. It's very hard to see the posts from the people I follow if you don't spot them actually being made, while a lot of sub-forums haven't had a post in a long time
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    Join Date: Apr 2009

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    I'm quite happy with the way it is now. Anyone interested in what the trade is doing or offering can scroll down and click on the company which interests them and see a whole load of information from that particular trade member, including old offers and posts. It's good for trade members to have their own sub section, IMO.

    What is annoying are a few who constantly spam the forum with links to reviews and other nonsense, just so that they stay at the top. These companies play no part in the forum apart from this.

    Quite a few of the trade sub sections haven't had posts for a number of years. These could be removed, making it tidier and more relevant.

  5. #5
    Join Date: Jun 2012

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    I'm Rick.

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    I am up for a single Trade forum.
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  6. #6
    Join Date: Apr 2009

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    I also like the facility of having a 'blog' in the trade section. Not possible with a single column.

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    Join Date: Apr 2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammonite Acoustics View Post
    I’ve chatted to Marco about the possibility of losing the individual sub-forums (Traders’ Rooms) in the trade section, and he asked me to post a thread to canvass thoughts from both trade and regular forum users.

    It seemed a really good idea for traders to have individual rooms where they can post freely and where regular visistors can go to clearly defined areas. But, what seems to have occurred is a bit of an ‘arms race’ where traders jostle to keep their latest post visible on the main front page of the forum. Anything else is largely invisible to casual visitors. Having initially embraced the idea of separate trade rooms, I think that the time has come to lose the trade rooms and have a single Trade sub-forum, where all the recent posts can be clearly seen at a glance, hopefully to the benefit of all users and visitors. This is what we used to have at AoS and what PFM still operate.

    So, please cast a vote and post your thoughts below.
    Just been looking at the PFM trade sales section and what happens is, any post is quickly lost by regular spam posts. When I have posted with a sale item, it is lost at the bottom within a day or so. With the present AOS layout, my posts are clearly visible and listed for anyone clicking on my Radlett Audio section.

    Obviously, the same with your Ammonite posts, which would be lost very quickly with all the later posts.

    This is why Marco changed the layout to the way it is now.

  8. #8
    Join Date: Jan 2009

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    I'm Hugo.

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    Clearly I disagree. Trade posts on PFM remain clearly visible for a reasonable length of time. For instance, in PFM's trade announcements section, today there are posts dating back nearly a fortnight, clearly visible on Page 1; however here on AoS someone has to make a deliberate effort to go to an individual trade room to see what's in there.

    I don't think that most people idly clicking around forums can be bothered to delve into sub-forums unless they are very specifically looking for information from one trader.

  9. #9
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    I like the system currently used so I can look at individual blogs.

    A single one would just mean individual traders would get lost in the constant barrage of daily posts linking to reduced stock pages.

    I can see why certain traders, who use this marketing approach, would prefer to change to a single blog.

    For me I would just stop viewing the trade section.

    mel

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    Join Date: Sep 2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    Inclined to agree with Hugo. It's very hard to see the posts from the people I follow if you don't spot them actually being made, while a lot of sub-forums haven't had a post in a long time
    yes agree with this
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